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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged change the game

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game changer i occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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for the

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masses yeah man

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today is tuesday march 20th 2018 just

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79 days into the new year 286

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days left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united

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states hither and tether to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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and near this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network and kg r a the

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planet i'm your host jimmy church what

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is cracking everybody how you doing

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night right

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these this is what we're gonna do

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now tonight

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very special guest laird scranton

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is here oh yeah

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laird scranton is here to discuss the

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latest breaking news out of egypt

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about the newly discovered chamber above

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the grand gallery

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in the great pyramid what is in it what

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did they find we're going to talk about

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that

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other rumors going around giza like

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the tomb of queen nefertiti

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that's right other stuff going on

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in giza it's a big deal

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it all ties together doesn't it

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think about that now i've got an update

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on the nazca mummies too

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also ties into egypt so i've got that

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uh at the bottom of the hour so stay put

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lots of things going on this world has

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unglued got another bomb that went off

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a few minutes before show time tonight

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in austin texas

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and uh now those reports are fluid

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but there is another one so i think this

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is uh now number seven

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uh we had the two well one at the fedex

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place and another

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suspicious package at fedex but another

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explosion

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in austin right before showtime tonight

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and everything that is going on around

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the world putin got re-elected right so

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you know that craziness going on uh

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the things in washington dc we're

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building up to this

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summit in north korea uh between trump

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and and kim fatty fat so

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um this this planet of ours combined

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with what is going on in egypt what is

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certainly the show that we did last

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night with emery smith

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um this is it it's coming unglued man

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facebook facebook completely

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imploding facebook that i'm telling you

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it's just like ah man we need to pump

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got a lot to talk about tonight larry

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scranton is going to be here

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and uh tomorrow night yvonne smith is

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here i cannot wait to get uh yvonne on

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the show so she'll be with us tomorrow

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john rappaport and there's no more fake

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newsroom live i bet you cannot

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wait for that man man man

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just craziness and

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and through it all this is the thing and

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uh oh by the way i'm over at a coast to

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coast uh this weekend to friday and

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so just a full full week ahead of us

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and it's it's times like these

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and just like that show last night with

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emery uh which was just fantastic

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is these are the times where i'm so glad

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i'm in this chair and i am

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able to uh steer this thing

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and and report also because i'm in this

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some of the things that uh we have been

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covering not only through guests but

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right our fans and and the phone calls

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over the years

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uh we have been talking about all of and

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it's it's it's it's happening it's

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the the mass media narrative and and

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conspiracy it's just like

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crazy crazy stuff and then i'm able to

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sit back and go well

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uh yeah you know and here we go

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so i have a lot to talk about tonight

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and having laird come in here uh

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combined with all kinds of other things

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i'm going to get to

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in just a second makes tonight's show

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important shows that we've done in a

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uh that we did last week on the show and

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the week before that in the month before

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that the month before that

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and they just keep building and getting

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bigger and more important and here we

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are tonight i'm telling you

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it's going down it's going down and i

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love it i just i

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i i love it that's why i like being in

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um and and combined with and when you

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everything in the big scope of things

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now what do we have

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we've got on stellar and that ties

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so just just kick back tonight listen to

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what i have to say

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listen to laird scranton and really

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enjoy the show get into it it's just

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absolutely incredible what's going down

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in our world around us you can follow us

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on twitter at j church radio simple

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at j church radio and all of the new

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twitter followers and for those that are

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here listening to

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uh the show tonight that uh have never

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follow us on twitter at j church radio

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simple

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and then hashtag f2b when you hashtag

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f2b that will take you

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into our sandbox which is where we hang

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out every single night

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and there are literally thousands of

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tweets that go down during this show

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and the uh the audience out there that

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doesn't

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participate into this show live they

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listen to the podcast or they listen to

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the archives they go to youtube or the i

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iheartradio wherever they go

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to listen to the archives um and they

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don't participate live

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they don't know you know when i talk

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about every single night about twitter

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with this show

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until you and so there's a lot of people

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that go you know what

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i'm gonna go check out the show i'm

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gonna go hang out i'm gonna go see what

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this is about

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and then they witness they see what

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happens on twitter they see what happens

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in the chat room

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and and they check out all of this stuff

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it's amazing so come over hang out with

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hashtag f2b on twitter

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all right you can follow me on twitter

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churchradio facebook youtube

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everything is fade to black uh you can

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go and follow me on my personal page on

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on facebook the links are there for that

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company page the radio page over on

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i don't know i don't know i you know

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some decisions to make uh well i say i

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know all you know your school friends

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and and i i can't lose touch with them

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do i abandon i can't do that right

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so i don't know i'm gonna really uh

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uh my presence on facebook and

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especially after the news that has been

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breaking over the last few days i'll get

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to that in just a second

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um but uh so you can still go follow

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like and

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subscribe uh momentarily until we start

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to shut this stuff down

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sandbox is hashtag ftb on twitter if you

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have any questions during the show you

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can use hashtag

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f2bq i also have an email jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com

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you can hit me up there if you have any

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tonight

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um the breaking news aside from the bomb

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let me uh let me pop an update here

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and see uh yeah injures one

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i don't know there's another another one

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um is facebook's most

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valuable asset is what it knows about

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about the history of facebook and where

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the revenue comes from they always talk

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their most valuable asset is what it

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advertising but they tailor that

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advertising to the advertisers because

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they're collecting data

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on you turn around and sell that they

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sell it to other companies too

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as well that that turn around and maybe

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uh it's tied back into advertising but

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your data is is valuable

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it's worth money and they sell it and

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they sell it pretty much anyone who

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wants to pay for it

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right and it's billions of dollars per

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year

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it's really big business now they've

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been caught

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their stock is plummeting zuckerberg's

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wealth has shrank about 10 billion

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ducks over the weekend think about that

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10 billion dollars poof

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and right now he is nowhere to be found

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nobody knows where

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mark zuckerberg is or his wife more on

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that in just a bit

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but the timing couldn't be better for a

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you can go and get your username now

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it's a very simple to do

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just go to onsteller.com click on

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if you wish you can use the promo code

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and that's there and available to you

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and you can get your own promo code if

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you want to as well

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but um uh on stellar is the next

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great social platform and it's based on

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the blockchain

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and the way that this is set up is on

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stellar

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will reward those who contribute comment

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create and post

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the opposite of facebook or anybody else

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out there

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right and so if you've got something to

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say you want to comment on somebody

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else's post or

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you want to create something you want to

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upload something whatever it is maybe

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you've got a book

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what whatever you go and you uh post all

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of the stuff on facebook

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facebook is the one making the money

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that

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those days are over those days are

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done the platform is going to have its

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own

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token economy on stellar it's going to

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have its own tokens called stellar

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and for the first time our community

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will have

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a way to support those who have

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something to say

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who have done the research in the same

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way that our community has always looked

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into the future

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right and and wondered about the future

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on stellar will prove

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to be one of the most visionary social

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platforms

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in history so think about that

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all right and with everything that is

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going down with uh facebook and

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other social media platforms

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on seller couldn't arrive at a more

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opportune time for us in our community

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and for the world

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all right more on that in just a bit the

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east city rose

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roadshow is going up the west coast of

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the united states

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and if you want to go and participate

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and hang out with the city just go to

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the east city banner right now the east

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city road show banner

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over at jimmychurchradio.com full

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scheduling details is right there

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our next event coming up is june 1st

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through the 4th 2018

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contact in the desert in indian wells

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palm springs at the

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renaissance resort and spa i was talking

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to uh

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larry scranton uh right before the show

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and

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he's doing this event um up in new york

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we'll talk about that tonight it's it's

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really cool but

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but we're talking about the lack of of

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really cool things to do on the east

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coast

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um all of these great events uh the you

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know it seems like it's all west coast

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heavy and i get that where you know

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things that east city ranch like

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our soul tech gathering uh going down

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august 9th through the 12th

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um so that's that's going down you have

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the new living expo or the conscious

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life expo

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contact in the desert you have the the

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events in sedona arizona and

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the just these even they're all west

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coast

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heavy we've got to get an event on the

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east coast and i was just talking to

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larry about that

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we need we need something out there on

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the east coast

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and i would love to hear from you and so

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would rita we would love to plan an

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event out there

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we're trying to think of the right city

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i was thinking this is me this is where

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i'm like what about myrtle beach

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myrtle beach has got a cracker barrel

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and i would love

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to go to myrtle beach they got they got

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an amusement park they got all those

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really cool things right there on the

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ocean and

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and that's me my midwest mind i would

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love to

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have an event in myrtle beach but what

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about atlanta you know

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charlotte uh you know something central

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on the coast so everybody from new york

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and maine and boston they could come

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down and go south philadelphia and all

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of that and then

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everybody from florida georgia could go

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up north

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texas you know and and chicago and just

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maybe

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you know some central location what

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about memphis that would be cool

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nashville maybe so i'm just thinking out

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loud here

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if there was a nice centralized city

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that uh you think we should do an event

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let us know because i would really like

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to uh get something going on out there

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next year

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um and now don't forget about our

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uh one of our hard drives here

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last week it's since been fixed uh it's

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been backed up and

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and uh discarded but uh our archives uh

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weren't uh getting posted last week

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they're all

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up now uh thank goodness but uh man we

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almost lost a lot of data too but it's

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how we look at things our sponsors have

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a very long time yeah we have a big

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sure but they also care about fade to

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okay all right um

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i want to jump uh ahead and and talk

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about

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uh we're gonna have larry scranton here

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in a few minutes but

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this weekend was one of the most

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explosive weekends

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uh for the world and and i'm talking

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about

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cambridge analytica

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now i know you've read some of the news

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uh it's a really big deal

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uh facebook zuckerberg and politics and

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all of that stuff

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cambridge analytica is this embattled

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data analytics company best known for

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its work with uh our president

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uh donald trump and his campaign

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but they've just suspended its ceo

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one alexander nix

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now there's a bunch of undercover

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reporting that's been going on

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and some videotape that i watched today

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many times oh i did

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showing him discussing

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bribery entrapment

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ukrainian women oh yeah

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awk just crazy stuff

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mixes suspension is immediate and this

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is according to

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cambridge analytica quoting here pending

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a full independent investigation i

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have no idea they're not going to bring

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this guy back but that was their

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they had to get out in front of the

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story man i love my river moon coffee

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man they had to get out in front of the

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story because the statement was released

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before

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channel 4 news in the uk was about to

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air

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uh another report a second in a series

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of exposes about the work of the company

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the report today featured undercover

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footage of

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nix claiming that he met

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trump many times i don't care about any

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of that

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and that the company was responsible for

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a wide

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swath of trump campaigns activity that

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he put

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trump in office just abs just

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going off the rails and again

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i don't care about that

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he went on to say we did all the

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research we did all the data all the

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analytics all the targeting

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right he said we ran all the digital

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campaign the television campaign and our

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data informed

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all the strategy

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alex taylor labeled as the chief data

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officer for cambridge analytica

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is recorded separately as saying that

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the firm's analysis was responsible for

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trump's electoral

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college performance now let's stop

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right there let's just pump the brakes

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the show is not about politics

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and and i really the media

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is is going to say a lot of things

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they're going to say that the fact that

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cambridge and nix

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worked for trump if that's not important

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it's it's it's not that happens all the

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time

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their methods well that's for others to

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judge

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what is important is where they got

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their data and they got that data from

572
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facebook either the smear campaign

573
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that's going to go out

574
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whatever it doesn't matter if it's trump

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if

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there would have been

577
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involvement there it just none of that

578
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matters it's not a red or blue

579
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situation here it's not and that's how

580
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facebook is gonna spin it

581
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that's how the media is going to spin it

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because that's

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that's where they think the story is and

584
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i'm telling you

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it is not they're going to try to spin

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it into the russians and republican

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democrat

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i'm telling you they're going to try to

589
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make it red blue they're going to

590
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probably pull

591
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a muller into this story

592
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but the outrage will be pointed

593
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by the public squarely at facebook i'm

594
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telling you

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and the blowback is happening now nearly

596
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2 billion users

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what level of trust has been lost

598
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two billion loser users and and

599
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and what zuckerberg has has to say about

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this is

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it's not happening because he has

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disappeared

603
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has facebook turn into one big

604
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psychological and brain mining machine

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and the answer is yes

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what was once that cool platform that i

607
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was just talking about to reach out to

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friends and family

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finding names of of somebody that you

610
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haven't talked to in 20 years and you

611
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see it on somebody's friends like dude

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then he sat next to me in in fourth

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grade

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ah man cool and you reach out and you

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guys talk

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and you know that's that that was

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facebook

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right it's gone it's gone

619
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it has turned into something so big

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servers and engineers

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with so much money to do whatever they

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want

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to gather statistics on its users

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everything

625
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they use it and sell it they use that

626
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data turn around and

627
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influence world events like

628
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the united states presidential election

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for instance

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it doesn't matter who won the fact that

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their data can be sold and used for

632
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whatever reason

633
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,760
that is scary and it's really scary

634
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:24,320
and if you just stop and and contemplate

635
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:25,200
these things

636
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:28,480
founded in 2004 you know that's

637
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,799
yesterday since 2006

638
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:35,279
facebook has grown in just 12 short

639
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years

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to controlling almost one third of the

641
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world's population

642
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and they control one half of it because

643
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the bottom third doesn't have a computer

644
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think about it it's too much control

645
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,120
monopoly here is too small of a word

646
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it's not the united states it is

647
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the world and when you listen

648
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:07,840
to alexander nix brag

649
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brag on hidden camera about the things

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that they do

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about the things that they can do the

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things that they want to do

653
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it just blows your mind absolutely

654
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:21,760
no morals he doesn't care he doesn't

655
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care about

656
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,679
anything

657
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,320
he's got the data and he'll use it for

658
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whatever reason he

659
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wants just as long as he gets paid

660
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:40,480
and he's proud of it he's bragging

661
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:44,960
he's happy he's smiling he's drinking

662
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he's got the data

663
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:51,120
and again it doesn't matter who he's

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representing

665
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it could be anyone or any country

666
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you stop and think about it the real

667
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question is what

668
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:03,120
data has been sold already in the past

669
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:08,080
to whom and what did they use it for

670
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,760
it doesn't matter they'll sell it to

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anybody

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seriously and let this be a warning to

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all of us

674
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:19,039
the channel 4 videos are just one tiny

675
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example of what goes on in this world

676
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:23,520
today

677
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,559
our community has always known this but

678
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:27,840
the rest of the world

679
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:31,120
now can see it for themselves

680
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,480
everything is not what it seems we need

681
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:35,760
to question everything

682
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,799
we have to we are not crazy

683
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,559
our community we've been talking about

684
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:42,480
this for so long 1984

685
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,080
george orwell is and it turns out

686
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:48,720
that our greatest fear the data mining

687
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,440
of our

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emotions and the things that make us

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happy and sad in our dogs and

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in politics it's nuts

691
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on stellar and what it represents could

692
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:02,720
not have arrived at a better time

693
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let me makes one other statement here

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the the stuff that was mined

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was used and mined from against

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and from those out there that were

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making political statements that were

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00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,120
out there

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00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:25,520
lambasting their neighbors and causing

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00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,159
fights

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00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,480
that that right there is is who they

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want to target

703
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,360
those and and boom

704
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,520
this data mining comes back and it

705
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:37,840
infects their news feed

706
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:40,240
because they know that it's going to

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affect

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00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:44,320
that person to the tune of 50 million

709
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:47,440
people it was targeted

710
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:50,559
it was scientific it was psychological

711
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:53,760
and it worked think about that for a

712
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,760
second it's a mind-blowing situation

713
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,480
it worked all of the outrage all of the

714
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:02,000
dividing and

715
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:04,399
and and the anger and the just the

716
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:08,080
insanity that happened in 2016 and 2017

717
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,440
still goes on today was used

718
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,320
targeted right back at exactly what

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would affect somebody to the point where

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it was making them crazy and it worked

721
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:24,480
it worked facebook

722
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:28,159
needs to be shamed and and this selling

723
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:29,600
of user data

724
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:32,640
for whatever reason and especially to a

725
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:33,360
company like

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00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,000
cambridge analytica that is there to use

727
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:39,039
it as a psychological ploy right back

728
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think about that it's not what you think

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there's a reason why zuckerberg is

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running and hiding right now

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he knows this is a really really big

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deal

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it's fade to black i'm yours jimmy

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church now how does all of this tie

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in to laird scranton i'll always

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i'll always connect those dots when i

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it's not going to be what you think

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also uh gaia and the mummies now

854
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,240
uh the nazca mummies and i want to talk

855
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:38,000
to you about that for a second because

856
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,200
last week um rt

857
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:44,079
uh published an article some of which i

858
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:45,520
will read to you here

859
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:48,560
in in just a minute but that article

860
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:49,440
suggested

861
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:52,240
that the results were in and it was

862
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:53,599
misleading

863
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:57,200
as it turns out uh they were not

864
00:35:01,589 --> 00:35:00,880
and they at least at least the results

865
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,599
were not

866
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:03,839
when they posted this article last week

867
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:04,720
okay so

868
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,760
let me make that clear and i've been on

869
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:10,240
on the phone with gaia over the uh last

870
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,040
few days

871
00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:13,599
and i've got some more info um on some

872
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:15,119
other things too that i'm going to cover

873
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,040
here in just a bit but

874
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:20,640
um i was supposed to have jay weidner on

875
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,880
the show tonight to respond to it and

876
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,480
talk about those results

877
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:27,280
and we have to put it off for a few days

878
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:27,680
because

879
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,040
gaia is finishing their latest video uh

880
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,200
and that release about uh the nazca

881
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:35,839
mummies and their ongoing report

882
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:39,040
and we were uh hoping that that was

883
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,480
going to be ready today and we're going

884
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:42,560
to tie that into the show and jay and go

885
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:43,200
and

886
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:46,640
the video

887
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:49,599
uh the new video report uh should be

888
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,720
ready tomorrow

889
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,960
uh i look to announce that tomorrow on

890
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:54,720
the show and maybe thursday but

891
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,760
nonetheless uh it's eminent it's

892
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,480
finished

893
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,320
they've got some stuff that they uh need

894
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:01,680
to tighten up with it you know how it

895
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:03,680
goes with a video production

896
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:06,800
so uh we couldn't make it for today

897
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:09,839
um and it's this

898
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:13,359
it's release uh not only is going to

899
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:14,400
have uh

900
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:17,839
uh some some more results in it

901
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:20,960
but it's it's a really big deal and the

902
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,680
rt article uh not only didn't have

903
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:25,200
access to that

904
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:29,040
but to me as i i read through it i was

905
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,839
like this is

906
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,520
it's a little misleading so i'm gonna

907
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,359
get to that in just a second

908
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,440
i've always tried to stay out in front

909
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:37,200
of this story

910
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:40,079
and and i will always continue to do

911
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:40,560
that

912
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:43,839
and and so let me do this

913
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,640
let me get back to the rt article it uh

914
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,720
starts out with this this is uh

915
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:50,880
quoting from rt it says russian

916
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,960
researchers have analyzed tissue

917
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,200
samples from one of the mysterious alien

918
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:57,359
creatures uncovered in peru last year

919
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,560
the mummy with an elongated skull had

920
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,160
only three fingers

921
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:05,040
has excited ufologists since its

922
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,240
discovery

923
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,720
the article continues with this pollen

924
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,119
the preliminary analysis of the tissue

925
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:13,359
samples revealed that the mummy

926
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:16,079
found in a tomb near nazca lines of peru

927
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:16,640
and named

928
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:19,839
maria is a humanoid being

929
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:23,280
with 23 pairs of chromosomes

930
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:26,560
so far so human this is quoting directly

931
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:29,599
from the article it dates back to the

932
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:30,079
5th

933
00:37:34,829 --> 00:37:33,040
century 80 a full millennium before

934
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:34,839
europeans discovered

935
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,400
america continues a professor of the

936
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:40,320
national research university in saint

937
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:41,560
petersburg

938
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:46,160
constantine court korotkov

939
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:49,680
and natalya zalnazaya

940
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:52,000
radiologists and specialists in computer

941
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,040
tomography

942
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:55,599
at the international biological systems

943
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:56,320
institute

944
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,119
collected the tissue samples in peru and

945
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:01,119
brought them back to saint petersburg

946
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,640
for analysis the article continues

947
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,960
x-ray and computer tomography showed

948
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:08,560
maria had a different

949
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:12,400
rib structure to that of humans

950
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:16,320
keel that's k-e-e-l keel-shaped in the

951
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:17,200
upper part

952
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,240
with a handful of semicircular ribs

953
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:22,560
the cage protects the creatures internal

954
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:23,520
organs which

955
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:27,599
do resemble those of humans

956
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:30,839
it says scientists also found maria was

957
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,240
embalmed in cadmium

958
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:37,680
chloride white powder

959
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:40,480
the antibacterial effect of which has

960
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:41,200
preserved

961
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,240
maria to this day now

962
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,640
what this article now let me be clear

963
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:50,160
here

964
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,000
okay the article

965
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:56,560
tried to suggest that there's 23

966
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:57,680
chromosomes here

967
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,040
in that it's human okay and

968
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,320
and that is misleading there's no dna

969
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,079
results here by the way that this is

970
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:08,400
pretty much the whole article

971
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,680
um and that's misleading

972
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,359
there's nothing here that that speaks

973
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:15,839
about dna or percentage of dna

974
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:19,760
or or any of that um

975
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:22,880
but what i find really curious here

976
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:26,880
is the writer of this article

977
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:31,920
didn't realize what they had

978
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:35,359
right in the article they finish

979
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:38,400
the article with this scientists

980
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,760
also found maria was embalmed in cadmium

981
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:43,119
chloride white

982
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:47,760
powder now you have to stop right there

983
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,520
there has been speculation

984
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,160
uh out there in the community uh the

985
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:56,320
debunkers and the skeptics of which

986
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:00,079
there should be right this white powder

987
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:03,599
you know what it is it's chalk it's this

988
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,000
it's that it was used to hide this it

989
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,079
was used for this it was used for that

990
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,200
nobody knew and well no

991
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,200
people said it was certain things

992
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:16,079
because of the way that it looked

993
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:19,200
but what they didn't know is what it was

994
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,109
let's let's enjoy this moment for a

995
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:31,440
second

996
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:35,359
cadmium chloride is a white crystalline

997
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:38,560
compound of cadmium

998
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:41,920
and chlorine this is where i want you to

999
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:44,880
go and start doing your research

1000
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:53,030
cadmium chloride is used

1001
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,440
for the preparation of amongst other

1002
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:56,880
things but check this out

1003
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:00,720
of cadmium sulfide

1004
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:03,760
it's cadmium yellow

1005
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:08,240
it's a inorganic pigment

1006
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:11,920
in paint now

1007
00:41:19,309 --> 00:41:15,680
before i continue we're talking about

1008
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,319
something that was applied to a mummy

1009
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:22,800
1500 years ago

1010
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:28,470
you have to ask yourself where would

1011
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:29,440
they get

1012
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:32,800
this kind of compound

1013
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:39,349
so there's that element of it today in

1014
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:40,800
modern chemistry in

1015
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,079
industry it's a compound that is used

1016
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:47,040
for a variety of things and one of them

1017
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,560
is pigmen yellow cadmium

1018
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,960
yellow and if you've ever been in

1019
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,240
artwork or if you've

1020
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,560
ever been involved in production

1021
00:42:03,030 --> 00:41:58,079
printing and so forth

1022
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:03,040
you know what cadmium yellow is

1023
00:42:10,109 --> 00:42:06,960
so it's also used

1024
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:10,119
cadmium chloride is used in

1025
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,520
photocopying it's used for dyeing

1026
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:14,720
because it's a dye

1027
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:17,880
can be used as a die and also in

1028
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:20,640
electroplating

1029
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:26,000
it was applied to these mummies 1500

1030
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,790
now listen to what i'm saying you go and

1031
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:34,800
you start to do a little bit of research

1032
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:35,119
now

1033
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,119
apparently it preserved these mummies

1034
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:42,240
so perfectly and when you look at the

1035
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:43,280
x-rays

1036
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:46,319
and the mris and and the the body scans

1037
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:49,760
you can see that the organs are intact

1038
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:52,800
the bones are intact the skin

1039
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:56,960
is intact they are perfectly

1040
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,720
preserved now

1041
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,119
the preservation looks like it's from

1042
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,040
cadmium chloride

1043
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:07,119
it also has to do with the high desert

1044
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:08,079
and the

1045
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:11,280
atmosphere and and so forth of peru of

1046
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,079
course

1047
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,480
right but it's the combination of the

1048
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:16,480
two

1049
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:19,520
now it goes one step further and this is

1050
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,000
where

1051
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,720
for me it gets mind-blowing we can look

1052
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,240
at mummies all around the world

1053
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:27,760
we can look at uh all cultures

1054
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,240
uh did some sort of of mummification

1055
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,319
and you can go back to and you think

1056
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:35,680
about some of the things that we knew

1057
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:37,040
about when we were growing up like

1058
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:38,319
shrunken heads and

1059
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:41,119
and africa and and certainly the

1060
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:43,359
caribbean and just there was always a

1061
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:44,240
preservation

1062
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,359
of of of bodies after death and and

1063
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,440
trying to preserve them

1064
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:52,000
all right but of course when we think

1065
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:52,480
about

1066
00:44:00,470 --> 00:44:00,000
and um i have seen in in museums i have

1067
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:00,480
seen

1068
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,880
mummies from egypt i know that you have

1069
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:05,920
i have certainly seen the mummy

1070
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:09,200
from 1932 or whenever and

1071
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,640
and we always uh think about egypt first

1072
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:14,000
when we think about mummies

1073
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:17,200
right well yeah thank you for this

1074
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:24,309
thank you for that is is this

1075
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:27,920
cadmium chloride where do you

1076
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:36,550
well wait for it

1077
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:39,760
in egyptian date palm

1078
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:46,630
did you hear what i just said

1079
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,079
now when we go to to have

1080
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:53,680
that 1500 years ago that

1081
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:57,839
much cadmium chloride to be

1082
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:01,200
sprinkling it and coating mummies with

1083
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:01,680
it

1084
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,319
and there has to be a history and there

1085
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:11,520
has to be some teaching going on

1086
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:14,640
but one of the

1087
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:17,760
biggest sources for it and easiest

1088
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:20,000
sources to get to

1089
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,160
is egyptian date palm pollen

1090
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,200
now i uh i would i

1091
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:29,440
this is where all of you this is why i

1092
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,880
love this show and this is why i love

1093
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,480
this audience

1094
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:34,960
is now i need you to go out and start

1095
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,920
researching

1096
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:38,800
i've given you all of the data and i

1097
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:45,510
cadmium chloride and when you see the

1098
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,240
uses

1099
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:49,280
for it and and what it what what

1100
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:52,640
in egypt and and what they were doing

1101
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,200
with it

1102
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:56,720
uh thousands of years ago and how they

1103
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:57,359
collected

1104
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:00,640
it there is no mention about

1105
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:05,119
cadmium chloride in peru

1106
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:08,640
date palm pollen

1107
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:11,200
and especially at that altitude and what

1108
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,400
is going on

1109
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:15,599
in the nazca planes this is this is a

1110
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,079
crazy crazy yes cadmium is really toxic

1111
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:22,560
and that's where i'm going next they

1112
00:46:26,829 --> 00:46:24,319
were using it

1113
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,839
in egypt for amongst other things but

1114
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:28,160
always uh

1115
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:30,160
it turns to this especially thousands of

1116
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:31,520
years ago fertility

1117
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:35,440
in men right

1118
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:38,800
like to the tenth power you guys are

1119
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:44,309
can you say cadmium chloride i know

1120
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,280
right

1121
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:48,720
this is a big deal so

1122
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:53,119
then they found out uh oh millennia ago

1123
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:57,280
in egypt that it was toxic

1124
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,319
yeah what is egyptian date palm pollen

1125
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:01,839
doing in peru

1126
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:08,870
it is uh it is an amazing now

1127
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,920
um that's what i texted texted jay

1128
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,560
tonight

1129
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:15,200
as i'm doing you know look i i'm just a

1130
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,720
radio show host

1131
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,240
all right i'm somebody that's out there

1132
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:20,319
that's curious and i'm

1133
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,839
certainly all uh all about egypt and our

1134
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,599
community and things and i'm always

1135
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:27,040
looking at things and it's just

1136
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:30,480
funny how i can go

1137
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,920
and look at a few things and start

1138
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,359
telling you know and going through and

1139
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,280
doing a little bit of research

1140
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,319
and then finding out amazing stuff like

1141
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,000
this yeah gabe just said what a

1142
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:41,920
coincidence not

1143
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,720
right egyptian date palm pollen oh yeah

1144
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:49,200
it's abundant in peru i know everybody's

1145
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:51,040
saying the same thing

1146
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:54,240
so now uh

1147
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,319
i uh i spent about an hour today on this

1148
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,640
now that i've let the cat out of the bag

1149
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,800
uh with this audience and i've given you

1150
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:05,599
the things to go and to look into

1151
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:10,319
let's find out the natural sources

1152
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,000
for egyptian are for cadmium chloride

1153
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,480
where does it exist in nature where was

1154
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:18,960
it and and to have a powder

1155
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:21,359
like this straight line from cairo to

1156
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:22,559
the pyramids of peru

1157
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:26,079
exactly right something funky

1158
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,200
here is going on and uh

1159
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,280
bella was nazca mummies were preserved

1160
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:33,359
using cadmium chloride which comes from

1161
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:34,000
egyptian

1162
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:37,680
date palm pollen watch

1163
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,720
oh is this uh okay so this showed up in

1164
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,800
a newspaper article somewhere

1165
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:45,440
okay i love you guys this is what i'm

1166
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,800
talking about i didn't have the time to

1167
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:48,640
go and click on eight million links

1168
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:49,440
today

1169
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,880
i just went uh one i went straight to

1170
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:56,079
uh uh published journals and

1171
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,440
uh industrial uh information on cadmium

1172
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:01,520
chloride

1173
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:04,720
but to have all of this just surface

1174
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:05,440
like this

1175
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:08,559
is there's something going on so

1176
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,359
all of you let's go let's find out

1177
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,079
thursday night fader night is coming up

1178
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,640
and uh let's let's talk about this by

1179
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:18,480
that time hopefully

1180
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:22,480
uh gaia will have its uh it's its new

1181
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:26,160
uh series up i will say i can't tip

1182
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,760
my hat uh to what those dna

1183
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,160
results are that's uh that's up to guy

1184
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:34,160
and when we get widener on

1185
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,760
you know he'll talk about this uh

1186
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:37,920
further but um

1187
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,440
let's just say this there are some big

1188
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:41,520
surprises that are about to surface with

1189
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:42,839
this

1190
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:47,200
can't keep up with twitter you guys are

1191
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:49,119
doing too much all right i've got about

1192
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,829
and uh i'll take a couple of phone calls

1193
00:49:56,839 --> 00:50:00,950
323-825-5045

1194
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:03,109
let me get this going i didn't turn on

1195
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,480
the other phone bank

1196
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:06,400
okay so that's up in live okay so we're

1197
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:07,680
good to go there

1198
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:10,880
and the reason why um

1199
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:14,319
i have presented it like i have tonight

1200
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:17,440
it's it's actually very very simple when

1201
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:17,760
we

1202
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:20,960
look at uh what is going on

1203
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,680
uh with facebook what is going on with

1204
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,680
data what is going on with knowledge

1205
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:27,119
what is going on

1206
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,480
uh with not only how uh there seems to

1207
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,559
be a big lie going on out there and the

1208
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,920
manipulation of

1209
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,920
us and what is coming back to us and

1210
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,359
what we are told

1211
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,079
and then we have a case like this with

1212
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:41,839
the nazca mummies

1213
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,359
and and this particular compound

1214
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,599
on the outside of these mummies how it

1215
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:49,200
could directly tie

1216
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,440
back to egypt is astonishing to me

1217
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,440
and then we have what is going on over

1218
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:56,800
in egypt right now

1219
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:59,839
this very second and and the

1220
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:00,960
manipulation

1221
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:03,520
of what is being discovered out there on

1222
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,119
the gisa plateau

1223
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,839
when we were told year after year after

1224
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:09,599
year there's nothing left to discover

1225
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,640
out there

1226
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,640
and then we have this direct connection

1227
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:15,119
and then what is going on right now in

1228
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:16,400
giza

1229
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,359
and and how this knowledge is being held

1230
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:21,839
back from us

1231
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:25,839
we have to as a community we have to

1232
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,040
uh get together we have to stay in front

1233
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:30,480
of this we have to do

1234
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,400
our own research the the the point that

1235
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:36,000
i will always drive home

1236
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:39,760
with all of you is we have

1237
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:43,119
uh individually some of the smartest

1238
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:45,839
people out there that on this planet in

1239
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,720
our community

1240
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,319
and it doesn't matter if it's video

1241
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:50,079
analysis photo analysis

1242
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,440
ancient history facts data

1243
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,359
it could be modern it could be about

1244
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,359
space it could be about black holes it

1245
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:59,119
could be about physics it could be about

1246
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,880
ghosts it could be about any subject

1247
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:01,920
that you want

1248
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,400
you can pick it out there is one of our

1249
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:06,079
friends out there in the community that

1250
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:06,640
knows

1251
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,319
all of it right and so we pop it out

1252
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:12,000
there and i throw this out there

1253
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:13,200
collectively

1254
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:14,880
we will be able to go and get this

1255
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:16,240
research done on

1256
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:19,920
our own i don't need the man

1257
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:23,520
i've got you guys and i go

1258
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:26,640
and i pick something out so is what's

1259
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,480
fascinating to me

1260
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:31,200
rt puts out this article and they think

1261
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:32,000
it's all funny

1262
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,800
haha you know and they're gonna uh

1263
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:35,920
crunch this

1264
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:39,920
and uh yeah jay widener just said

1265
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:42,960
wtf i'm telling you

1266
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:45,599
he's listening jay you see jake you know

1267
00:52:48,309 --> 00:52:46,559
i love you

1268
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,319
and this is this is what's so great

1269
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,000
about our community

1270
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:51,839
you know and we're gonna get together

1271
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:53,040
and i'm telling you

1272
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:56,160
this the situation with these mummies

1273
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:56,880
and what guy

1274
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:59,280
has done is it's some of the biggest

1275
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:00,960
news ever

1276
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:05,119
ever i am so fascinated with it and now

1277
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:07,040
that this connection is there

1278
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,480
and the writer for rt had this

1279
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:12,079
information right in front of them could

1280
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,400
that

1281
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:15,520
article

1282
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:18,800
ever to be released and blew it

1283
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,400
because they just don't want to go and

1284
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,240
do a little bit of research

1285
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:25,280
and i did and all of you fader knots are

1286
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,480
going to band together we're going to

1287
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,000
find out we're going to figure this

1288
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,319
thing out and i cannot wait for this

1289
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,400
next release from gaia i cannot

1290
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:35,280
wait it all ties together let's go to

1291
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,800
the phones how you live on fade to black

1292
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,559
who's calling

1293
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,880
yeah this is still here in the northwest

1294
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:42,240
hey phil in the northwest

1295
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,079
is this the craziest news like in ever

1296
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:49,200
well it's pretty interesting but uh

1297
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:52,480
i mean we think we're talking about 1500

1298
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,079
18 no no 505

1299
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,119
500 a.d oh okay

1300
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:01,760
well that might still work because uh i

1301
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:04,000
i think that there's been some evidence

1302
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:04,800
that the

1303
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:08,000
egyptians had like uh sea going

1304
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,040
uh votes oh absolutely

1305
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:13,040
yeah there's no question about that part

1306
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,079
i mean they

1307
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:17,280
uh uh not only were they able to

1308
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:20,160
you know uh move up and down the nile

1309
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:21,599
but they were trading you got to go all

1310
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:22,319
the way back

1311
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:23,680
you know ancient egypt and the

1312
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,920
phoenicians and and what they were doing

1313
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:27,359
in the mediterranean

1314
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:30,800
don't you think it's possible to uh

1315
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,000
to have sailed not only um out of

1316
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,200
the nile into the mediterranean but out

1317
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,960
through the straits of gibraltar and

1318
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:40,960
past spain and across the atlantic

1319
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:44,400
there's evidence of the the egyptians in

1320
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:47,520
in australia and and getting you know

1321
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:48,240
doing that

1322
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,520
getting to uh south and central america

1323
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,960
for the egyptians

1324
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:54,480
it's just you know that's just a hop

1325
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:56,000
skip and a jump man it's just right

1326
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:56,559
across

1327
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,839
uh the atlantic out of uh the straits of

1328
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,200
gibraltar and

1329
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,559
stopping by the caribbean and and and uh

1330
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:06,559
and getting a good suntan and heading

1331
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:09,119
south you know right in the panel

1332
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,079
so yeah absolutely i mean there's one

1333
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:14,240
other thing there that ties into this

1334
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:17,599
is that there was a report

1335
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,109
colorado i mean the grand canyon yeah of

1336
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,319
a egyptian a whole bunch of egyptian

1337
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:31,040
coffins and well what the heck and

1338
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,599
everything

1339
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:34,480
yeah yeah yeah yeah you know we're still

1340
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,040
looking

1341
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:38,400
for that um the news reports uh that

1342
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:39,680
came out about that

1343
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:42,559
uh you know at the turn of the century

1344
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:42,960
um

1345
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,079
about that expedition uh that they found

1346
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:48,000
everything that uh

1347
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:51,359
the smithsonian showed up filled up a

1348
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:52,880
bunch of trucks and split

1349
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,520
and then said nothing to see here the

1350
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:57,040
the news reports

1351
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,400
were pretty solid um when i don't know

1352
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:02,160
if you've ever flown over the grand

1353
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,799
canyon

1354
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,680
um i have i have probably a hundred

1355
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:07,599
times and every time i fly over it i

1356
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:08,480
look

1357
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:11,599
and no matter what you think you

1358
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,440
know about it it's freaking big

1359
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:18,240
and i'm not being i'm not being cavalier

1360
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:19,440
here it is

1361
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,720
ginormous and well i mean i know about

1362
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,559
the power of the colorado river i used

1363
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:25,760
to live in denver or

1364
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,400
colorado so well and so the thing is

1365
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:30,160
when you look at when you look at when

1366
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:32,000
you fly over the grand canyon and i've

1367
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,440
been right there man i've been all the

1368
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:34,960
different lookouts and looked

1369
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:37,440
down into it and the first thing you

1370
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:38,240
think of is

1371
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:41,680
man you know what i i bet man

1372
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,880
has set foot on like one percent

1373
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,040
of what is here that there's just no way

1374
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:48,799
it's all been discovered and looked at

1375
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:49,119
and

1376
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,400
too massive

1377
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:55,040
so there you go so phil thank you for

1378
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,559
the phone call i got a job

1379
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:59,280
one other thing man i wanted to let you

1380
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:00,720
know that i was uh

1381
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,559
doing a reiki a healing for the world

1382
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,480
and i sent it out to the higher selves

1383
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,160
of everybody in trade or not

1384
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:10,160
and all that right so you just need to

1385
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,000
tap into that and it'll come down to

1386
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:14,000
you and there was a lot of energy

1387
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:15,680
because the sun was really

1388
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:18,160
shining down and it was it was quite

1389
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:18,799
powerful

1390
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:21,280
oh man thank you i want to want to share

1391
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,240
that with everybody

1392
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:24,079
you got it phil thank you so much my

1393
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,280
friend

1394
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:27,680
you have a good one yeah you too great

1395
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:28,559
night on the show

1396
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:31,040
great phone call thank you for that phil

1397
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,599
and

1398
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:33,119
uh let's see here another important

1399
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,119
factor is cadmium is

1400
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,839
that it melts at a mere 610 degrees

1401
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,599
fahrenheit not only that

1402
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,440
richard dennett suggested that the great

1403
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:43,680
pyramid was used as a reaction chamber

1404
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:44,400
for zinc

1405
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:47,280
and hydrochloric acid the acid with

1406
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:50,319
cadmium produces cadmium chloride

1407
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shut up see that's what i'm talking

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about

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the fate or not best audience in the

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world you guys are the best that's from

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uh

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who's that from that's from eddie in

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pennsylvania thank you for that eddie

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all right i'm gonna get out of here

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00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:05,440
bring in laird scranton we're gonna talk

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00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:07,119
about everything that's going on over in

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egypt

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and again like i said it all

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ties together i cannot wait for this new

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guy a video

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the next report the next installment

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we're days away

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murals to be church

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be right back with our guest larry

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00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:26,319
scranton it's it's it's going on tonight

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this is fade to black stay with us

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[Applause]

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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this is micah hanks of the grealian

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church on fade to black

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so

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welcome back fade to black coming out

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tonight our guest is laird scranton

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software designer from albany new york

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who writes about ancient mysteries

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01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:59,359
cosmology and language his work includes

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articles published in the university of

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01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:03,440
chicago's anthropology news academic

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01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:04,240
journal

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01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:06,720
in temple university's encyclopedia of

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01:03:11,109 --> 01:03:08,079
african religion

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01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:11,119
and in the vassar quarterly magazine his

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01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:12,799
book the science of the dogen

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01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:15,119
was taught at colgate university under

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01:03:19,349 --> 01:03:16,960
the title hidden meanings

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01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:19,359
a study of the founding symbols of

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01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:20,559
civilization

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01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:22,319
his books include the sacred symbols of

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01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:24,720
the dogen the science of the dogen

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01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,599
the cosmological origin of myth and

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01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:29,680
symbol and his latest of course

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01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:31,839
the mystery of scarabray tonight we're

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01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:33,200
going to discuss the latest breaking

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01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,960
news out of egypt about the newly

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01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:36,559
discovered chamber above the grand

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01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:37,359
gallery

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01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:39,280
in the great pyramid and other rumors

1546
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,960
that are glowing around right now in the

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01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:42,240
giza plateau

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01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:43,520
and i would like to welcome back our

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01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,440
good friend the one and only

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01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:47,520
laird scranton laird how are you my

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01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:48,480
friend

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01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,480
hey jimmy i'm great how are you you know

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01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,480
it's the equinox what a great time to be

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01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:54,400
on fade to black i know right

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01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:56,799
you know a coincidink i think not

1556
01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:58,960
especially when it comes to you laird

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01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:01,599
thank you nothing like a good

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01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:03,359
synchronicity right

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01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,880
that's true you know i gotta let me let

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01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:08,160
me say that you have

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01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,520
uh such a unique voice and

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01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:13,680
and i just love to hear your voice it's

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01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:14,559
always

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01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:16,880
it's it's academic and it's but it's

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01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,480
also the voice of reason

1566
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,160
and and it's just great to hear your

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01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:21,839
voice and i'm just glad to have you back

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01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:23,039
on the show

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01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,480
well thank you very much you know i

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01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:26,720
really appreciate it i have had a

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01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:28,160
friend the other day suggests i had to

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01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,240
read my books to tape and i thought

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01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:32,240
i'd never even considered the

1574
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:34,000
possibility of doing that i never

1575
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:35,839
imagined that my voice is anything out

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01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:37,039
of the ordinary here

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01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,319
no you know see the thing is and

1578
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:42,559
and i really mean this too in all of

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01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:43,680
your interviews

1580
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:45,839
and and video stuff that you have done

1581
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:48,480
over the years whenever you sit down

1582
01:04:52,829 --> 01:04:50,960
and you're speaking to somebody whether

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01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:52,839
it's you know john anthony west or

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01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,000
whoever

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01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:56,400
and you start talking i'm gonna tell you

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01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:58,079
larry people shut up

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01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:01,039
you know and you've got you've got that

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01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:03,280
ability to communicate and part of that

1589
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:05,039
is is your voice and then you have the

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01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:06,720
intellect to back it up

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01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:09,039
and take that the right way or the wrong

1592
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,640
way but people listen

1593
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:12,559
and no i think that's a great idea book

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01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:14,720
on tape read your own

1595
01:05:22,150 --> 01:05:19,359
that's that's a winner man oh wow

1596
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:22,160
so uh yeah certainly interesting times

1597
01:05:24,069 --> 01:05:23,440
we're living in there's an awful lot

1598
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:24,079
going on

1599
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:27,200
on uh in egypt but you know what was

1600
01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:27,680
funny

1601
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:31,119
is i just i just uh you were at a loss

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01:05:34,829 --> 01:05:32,079
for words

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01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:34,839
when was the last time that that

1604
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:42,230
now um let's actually you're absolutely

1605
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:44,079
right with that so let's let's kind of

1606
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:44,799
start

1607
01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,000
there why um this is

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01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:50,240
i want your opinions on a few things but

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01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:51,920
one of those that is foremost and you've

1610
01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:53,680
been dealing with this forever in your

1611
01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:55,039
career

1612
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:58,079
why why the secrecy

1613
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:01,760
and the cloak that is over giza ancient

1614
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:03,280
history in general and in

1615
01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:07,119
egypt or in africa but why

1616
01:06:13,589 --> 01:06:11,039
why do they censor us why not

1617
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:13,599
just just present this stuff what's the

1618
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:14,960
big secret why are they

1619
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:17,599
trying to cover things up well you know

1620
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,799
this

1621
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:21,359
careers are made and broken on the kinds

1622
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:23,520
of information that might potentially be

1623
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,160
in new chambers they find and new

1624
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:27,920
locations they uncover

1625
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:29,599
so i'm sure they they try to hold it

1626
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:31,680
very close to their vest you know

1627
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,680
especially if they have a sense that

1628
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:35,200
they're on the brink of a discovery of

1629
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:35,839
some kind

1630
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:37,520
a major discovery but we've had an awful

1631
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:39,200
lot of things that reported

1632
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:40,960
lately in egypt i mean every other week

1633
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:42,640
there's there's some new

1634
01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:46,240
major find uh

1635
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:48,799
but but yes and the answer is yes but of

1636
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:50,240
course

1637
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:53,119
with your research with the dogan um uh

1638
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:53,599
also

1639
01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:56,000
scarabray which oddly enough all of this

1640
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:57,200
is connected right

1641
01:07:03,029 --> 01:07:00,240
everything is connected but with uh

1642
01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:03,039
even your research it takes you to get

1643
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:04,319
it out there

1644
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:07,200
if you hadn't written your books or done

1645
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:07,760
uh

1646
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,680
never gotten out and that's the way that

1647
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,599
they want it

1648
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:19,359
well but you know there there are people

1649
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:21,119
you know uh john anthony west and the

1650
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:22,720
robert volvals of the world are making

1651
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:24,880
it a lot easier for the people like me

1652
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:26,559
you know they they are and the graham

1653
01:07:30,549 --> 01:07:28,240
hancock they broke broke

1654
01:07:32,069 --> 01:07:30,559
through the walls now there's an

1655
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,079
audience and there's a

1656
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:34,799
you know growing means of getting

1657
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,720
information out and there's uh

1658
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:38,160
you know lots and lots of people

1659
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:40,000
interested in the subject and they've

1660
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:40,720
done a great

1661
01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:43,760
service to everybody um i i

1662
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:46,079
you just mentioned jaws and so did i

1663
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:48,400
john anthony west

1664
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:51,280
i'd be remiss not to ask you you spent a

1665
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:52,319
lot of time with him

1666
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:53,920
and you've done a lot of research you

1667
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:56,559
guys were uh partners in crime there for

1668
01:08:22,550 --> 01:07:56,880
a

1669
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:22,560
minutes from where my where i live

1670
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:24,640
so we spent quite a lot of time have

1671
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:26,000
been spending quite a lot of time with

1672
01:08:29,669 --> 01:08:27,679
john's family

1673
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,679
my daughter happened to work as a nurse

1674
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:31,600
at the same hospital so she was

1675
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:33,359
checking in on him all the time and so

1676
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,159
we've we were

1677
01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:38,719
benefited from from getting some insight

1678
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:39,679
into some of his

1679
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:41,839
his final days you know they really

1680
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,080
pulled out all the stops to try to treat

1681
01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:46,719
his cancer uh his family just you know

1682
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,359
lifted

1683
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,679
you know heaven and earth to try to try

1684
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,199
to make things happen

1685
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:53,600
but i guess it wasn't to be john was a

1686
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:55,279
good good guy although i have to tell

1687
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:55,839
you john

1688
01:09:01,990 --> 01:08:59,600
john was always entirely generous to me

1689
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:02,000
i remember being at a party at his house

1690
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:03,759
one summer afternoon

1691
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,920
populated by you know friends of all

1692
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:07,359
walks of life of his

1693
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,679
and i was having a conversation with one

1694
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,279
of them and i explained all the things

1695
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:14,080
john had done for me you know the he he

1696
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:15,839
personally shopped publishers for my

1697
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,719
books he

1698
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,440
introduced me at conferences things like

1699
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,799
that and saying what a

1700
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:23,759
generous person he was and the friends

1701
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,359
sort of chuckled and i i wonder what

1702
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:26,960
they were checking about and

1703
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:28,480
and i asked them and they said well you

1704
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,159
know that's not the way john is at all

1705
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,679
that's funny you know he had his

1706
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:37,279
curmudgeonly side so i'm sure there are

1707
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:38,799
people who only saw that

1708
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:42,719
he didn't didn't um suffer

1709
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:45,040
impertinence you know he uh would speak

1710
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:46,159
his mind

1711
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,759
without a person to hold back so i

1712
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,600
suppose that put some people off

1713
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:51,199
yeah you know that was uh one of the

1714
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:53,120
things that i appreciated about

1715
01:09:58,630 --> 01:09:56,960
him a lot first off from the very very

1716
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:58,640
beginning he always uh

1717
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:00,800
treated me with respect from the from

1718
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:02,000
the word go and

1719
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,239
so we always had that that cool part of

1720
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:05,760
the relationship but i'm going to tell

1721
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:08,000
you right now he corrected me

1722
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,440
a lot he would stop me mid-sentence

1723
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:13,840
and and tell me that i was wrong

1724
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:16,159
privately this is private stuff right

1725
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,560
and he's just like no no no no church

1726
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:19,920
stop right there

1727
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,120
and and i really he was not uh

1728
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:26,000
not afraid to do that is not afraid to

1729
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:28,080
do that it's not the right way to put it

1730
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:30,800
he didn't care right and that's the

1731
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:31,440
thing

1732
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,040
it didn't matter if it was public or

1733
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:35,520
private he was just who he was and

1734
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:38,000
curmudgeon is a good way to put it

1735
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,159
but you know he had the sensibility of a

1736
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,000
critic and the intelligence of a very

1737
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:43,440
good critic and he knew what he was

1738
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:44,560
talking about

1739
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,880
if he took a stance on something this

1740
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,840
was a

1741
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:49,360
reasoned stance he knew what he was

1742
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:51,280
talking about he'd done his research

1743
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:53,920
and so if you just we're in disagreement

1744
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:54,560
with him

1745
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:57,440
it was time to find the umbrella over

1746
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:59,120
both opinions because he

1747
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:01,280
he wasn't going to be wrong about it pax

1748
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:02,640
was going to prove him out

1749
01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:04,719
and you know with everything that is

1750
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,159
going down today

1751
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:09,040
uh not only with egypt but the world in

1752
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,239
general

1753
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,440
um i just wish that uh that he was

1754
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:15,760
here with us because he deserves it man

1755
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,360
he deserves so much

1756
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:18,960
and there's things that are going down

1757
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:20,400
right now that uh

1758
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,600
he's a big part of and you know what

1759
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:25,440
uh i miss him he was a really cool dude

1760
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,800
do you remember the last time you spoke

1761
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:27,920
to him

1762
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:30,960
well i visited him in the hospital um

1763
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,560
my son isaac and i went over and visited

1764
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,000
him at the hospital for a while was the

1765
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:35,760
last time we spoke to him but he was

1766
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,760
intubated at the time so it was a

1767
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,600
one-way conversation he couldn't really

1768
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:40,800
speak back

1769
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:44,080
but he uh he was clearly in there

1770
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,520
and he clearly wanted wanted to talk um

1771
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:49,199
i hadn't seen him for a little while he

1772
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:51,520
had been in egypt conducting tours

1773
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,480
right and at the point where um he got

1774
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:56,400
sick that he was taken to houston

1775
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,760
for six months for um fairly radical

1776
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:01,520
treatments for cancer that were actually

1777
01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:02,800
pretty effective

1778
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:04,560
and then brought back to his home which

1779
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,640
is about 45 minutes south of where i

1780
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:08,400
live in albany and

1781
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,719
but he arrived back in town the day

1782
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:12,400
before i was due to leave to go to the

1783
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:13,040
uk

1784
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:15,920
last year for a tour of northern

1785
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,880
scotland

1786
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,360
so it took a while to get to see him but

1787
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:21,360
we were very fortunate to have

1788
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:24,560
the last uh month or so with his family

1789
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:25,600
and with him

1790
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:28,159
um and to feel like we had contributed a

1791
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,840
little bit we were sort of pit crew for

1792
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:30,800
his family

1793
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,199
uh because we had a a place where they

1794
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:34,719
could flop when they were exhausted they

1795
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:36,080
were sort of tag teaming

1796
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:38,000
time in the hospital with them you know

1797
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:39,920
where each each family member would do

1798
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:41,840
two days in a row with them and then

1799
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:44,239
be relieved by the next family member

1800
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:45,120
very

1801
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:51,440
they're really neat people yeah yeah

1802
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,480
great family

1803
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:54,880
and again they they've all been very

1804
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:56,960
very cool with us and the fader knots in

1805
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:57,679
this show

1806
01:13:00,709 --> 01:13:00,080
and and uh man i just i just missed the

1807
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:00,719
guy

1808
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:04,239
you know and yeah so there you go uh

1809
01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:06,320
enough of that i'm wiping tears so let's

1810
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:08,080
move on

1811
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:09,520
right now you know this is what he's

1812
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:11,920
saying he's like okay church scranton

1813
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:15,280
okay move on guys let's let's let's go

1814
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:16,800
let's move on from this

1815
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:20,320
and so let's let's do just that um

1816
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,159
the uh the quotes from zahi

1817
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:26,640
haiwas over the years uh which we you

1818
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:27,520
know we

1819
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:29,120
laugh about a lot you know nothing to

1820
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:30,800
see here there's nothing

1821
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:37,750
[Laughter]

1822
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,760
and it's that is certainly not the case

1823
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:41,920
is it

1824
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:44,000
no not the case at all i mean as i said

1825
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:45,440
every week there's something it turns up

1826
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:47,679
that is potentially life

1827
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:49,520
changing or earth shaking you know

1828
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:51,120
history making

1829
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:52,719
um although a lot of this i mean you

1830
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,120
wonder um how much of this has built up

1831
01:13:58,709 --> 01:13:57,920
to the opening of the the grand egyptian

1832
01:14:01,830 --> 01:13:58,719
museum that

1833
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:01,840
is going to open in 2018 but hopefully

1834
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:02,800
there'll be

1835
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:05,840
new interesting finds to be reported at

1836
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:07,280
that opening that would be great

1837
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:08,719
it'd be wonderful if they knew what was

1838
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:10,640
inside this new

1839
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:12,080
chamber that they discovered in the

1840
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:14,320
pyramid um well

1841
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:17,520
okay so let's let's tackle that rumor

1842
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:20,640
right now the rumor is that

1843
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:23,199
uh they have gotten inside of the

1844
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:24,800
chamber they know what is

1845
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:28,880
in there and they are going to display

1846
01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:29,199
it

1847
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:30,239
and they're going to make the

1848
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,280
announcement officially shortly

1849
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:35,679
and that it's going to be on display

1850
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:38,000
when the new cairo museum

1851
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:41,600
opens later this year now that

1852
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:44,800
that is some pretty heavy stuff do you

1853
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:48,080
why okay so let's start let's start here

1854
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:50,480
if the rumor is true what do you think

1855
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,640
they found

1856
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:54,400
well the most likely thing i think they

1857
01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:56,000
found is a possibility that they

1858
01:15:01,830 --> 01:14:59,360
found um an iron throne the

1859
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:01,840
there are in egyptian myths in an

1860
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,760
egyptian text they talk about an iron

1861
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:05,440
throne of osiris

1862
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,960
and the speculation is

1863
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:11,679
just speculation but is that they may

1864
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:12,640
have actually

1865
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:14,800
stumbled across the act of this actual

1866
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:17,600
uh throne it would be iron-plated thrown

1867
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:20,640
with using meteoric iron

1868
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:22,159
they have an idea of what it looked like

1869
01:15:27,990 --> 01:15:24,400
because they've seen other examples of

1870
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:28,000
thrones from the same era and if so

1871
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:30,320
then there are potential implications

1872
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:32,320
about what this chamber is for

1873
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:33,360
maybe we should give some background on

1874
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:36,080
what the chamber is right

1875
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:39,040
they discovered using um sounding

1876
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:39,679
techniques

1877
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:42,880
they were able to determine that there

1878
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,520
was

1879
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,800
um a undiscovered chamber inside the

1880
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:48,159
great pyramid

1881
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:51,679
that's located it's about the same size

1882
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:53,679
as what's called the grand gallery that

1883
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:55,679
goes up at an angle inside the great

1884
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,480
pyramid

1885
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:58,719
and it it sits above it sort of

1886
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:00,159
horizontally

1887
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:02,560
and is set so that one end of it is just

1888
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:03,360
under the

1889
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:07,199
the apex of the the pyramid and so

1890
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,679
um it was a complete surprise when they

1891
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:11,280
found it nobody really

1892
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:13,120
seemed to have any idea that they that

1893
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,560
they might they weren't actually looking

1894
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:16,239
for it i think they were hoping to find

1895
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:17,280
some chambers

1896
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,040
and happened across this they can't tell

1897
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:23,600
they don't have a detailed enough image

1898
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:25,120
to have any idea of what it what it's

1899
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:26,560
really

1900
01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:28,880
shaped like you know what it what its

1901
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:30,719
structure is

1902
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:32,880
but they can get an idea of how big it

1903
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:34,320
is and where it's located and how it's

1904
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:35,520
situated

1905
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:38,560
um it also seems to be connected to

1906
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:41,920
if you remember about the the mysterious

1907
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,880
shafts

1908
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:45,040
that go up from like the king's chamber

1909
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,800
and the queen's chamber

1910
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:49,280
that don't actually reach the outside of

1911
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:49,840
the

1912
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:53,920
at certain angles

1913
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:55,440
there's been speculation that those

1914
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:57,679
aligned to certain star groups

1915
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,280
um remember there was a robotic engineer

1916
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:02,800
named rudolph

1917
01:17:08,229 --> 01:17:06,400
gantenbrink who designed a robot

1918
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:08,239
to go up into one of those shafts to

1919
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:09,600
take pictures actually he designed a

1920
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:10,400
couple of them

1921
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:14,000
and in 1992 and 93

1922
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,239
he they filmed there was a big

1923
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:18,080
documentary live documentary where they

1924
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,400
were

1925
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:20,880
sending this this robot up the shaft to

1926
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:22,400
try to figure out what was that

1927
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:25,440
at the end of the shaft um first time

1928
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:26,159
they were

1929
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:27,600
a little disappointed because what they

1930
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:30,960
found was there was a a doorway blocking

1931
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,320
the end of the shaft there was

1932
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:34,560
a point where they couldn't go past um

1933
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:35,920
to move through

1934
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:38,560
and so then they designed another robot

1935
01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:39,600
came back

1936
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:41,199
so that it had a little drill attached

1937
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:42,719
to it so they could drill a little

1938
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:45,920
like keyhole people into the

1939
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:48,480
stone and try to get a peek through as

1940
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,760
what was beyond

1941
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:51,600
that doorway and i think they discovered

1942
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,120
a second doorway

1943
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:55,120
a second block you know and what was

1944
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:56,840
funny about that

1945
01:18:01,189 --> 01:18:00,480
is zahi kicked gatenbrink out of egypt

1946
01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:01,199
right

1947
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:03,280
and and stopped that and so a couple of

1948
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:04,239
years later

1949
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:07,360
uh he designs his own robot and

1950
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:11,199
he wants he wants to steal the spotlight

1951
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,280
so he you know they go up they drill and

1952
01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:16,080
you know what he asked for it

1953
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:19,030
another block on the other side and

1954
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,560
[Laughter]

1955
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:22,080
what's interesting is that there were

1956
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:24,080
all sorts of predictions made beforehand

1957
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:24,719
you know by

1958
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,960
all the all the big players in my field

1959
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:28,800
of study about what might be found back

1960
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,120
there

1961
01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:31,600
john anthony west was one of those um he

1962
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:32,960
had commented that he thought there

1963
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:34,400
would be nothing back there but

1964
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,800
uh core masonry behind the door that's

1965
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:38,320
pretty close there was another block

1966
01:18:41,830 --> 01:18:40,320
which is core masonry or

1967
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:41,840
although it looks like it's also another

1968
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:44,000
door a robert boval

1969
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:45,440
thought that there be a statue

1970
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:48,239
discovered at the end of the shaft

1971
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,960
based on certain references he had but

1972
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:51,840
there are all sorts of different

1973
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,000
predictions made

1974
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:56,320
still we don't have a clear

1975
01:19:00,149 --> 01:18:57,840
understanding of what those

1976
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,159
why would why would they put such a tiny

1977
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:02,719
shaft that no one could go through

1978
01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:04,560
to lead to a door that you could never

1979
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:07,120
possibly use

1980
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:10,719
now do you remember um i can get some uh

1981
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:12,159
photographs of this i can get them

1982
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:12,960
posted up

1983
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,080
but there was a little bit of

1984
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:19,199
uh writing uh to the right um

1985
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:21,440
on you know in that little cube there

1986
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:22,960
the the the

1987
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:25,920
the empty space between the the gate and

1988
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,920
brink block and the new block

1989
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,760
there was something written there and

1990
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:31,679
with your symbolist background

1991
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:38,229
don't have a read on that particular um

1992
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:39,920
glyph and it wasn't really clear enough

1993
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:41,520
for for me to get a read on i know

1994
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:42,640
they're also

1995
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:46,239
um look like um um

1996
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:49,280
housings for copper handles yep uh

1997
01:19:52,870 --> 01:19:50,719
i know that sometimes they would lift

1998
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:52,880
egyptian these blocks of stone

1999
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,800
um using copper handles that looks like

2000
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:56,640
maybe some had originally been attached

2001
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:58,000
to the doorway block

2002
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:59,440
and maybe that's how they put it in

2003
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:01,440
place originally but yes there was a

2004
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:02,880
glyph of some kind

2005
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:05,040
i'll do some uh some checking and see if

2006
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:05,920
there's any

2007
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:08,400
further uh image that's a better quality

2008
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:09,760
image where we can figure out what that

2009
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:10,239
glyph

2010
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:13,280
means yeah yeah i'm looking i'm looking

2011
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:14,159
at it here

2012
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:16,560
and i've i've checked this out so many

2013
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:19,440
times in the past i'm going to uh post

2014
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:20,159
it

2015
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:23,360
i always thought that the middle guy was

2016
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:26,800
uh a humanoid figure it looks like a

2017
01:20:31,830 --> 01:20:28,800
head with legs like a stick figure

2018
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:31,840
right uh-huh and so i'm going to post

2019
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:33,040
this now but

2020
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:35,040
there are definitely three glyphs here

2021
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,040
there are three

2022
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,360
of something i don't know how how else

2023
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:42,000
to explain it

2024
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:43,600
yeah i can see them too the the pictures

2025
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,960
that i had seen of them were pretty

2026
01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:46,080
fuzzy

2027
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:47,360
but i don't know if they have a better

2028
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:49,520
image i hadn't seen a better quality

2029
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:50,400
image of them

2030
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,080
but it looks like three figures um

2031
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:56,400
uh keeping with some of the figures you

2032
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,320
see drawn in egyptian artwork

2033
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:00,800
yeah there are there everybody's posting

2034
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:02,080
these now let me uh

2035
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:04,400
let me uh uh get this up here and

2036
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:06,880
twitter really quick for everybody

2037
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:11,120
it um yeah again what what's interesting

2038
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:14,159
for me about this is that uh

2039
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:16,400
it's the construction of the pyramid you

2040
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,600
have to think about the

2041
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:19,760
angle of the shaft how perfect that the

2042
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:21,520
shaft needs to be

2043
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:24,639
um in the designing of everything to to

2044
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:26,000
get it up and how they

2045
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:29,600
included it in but they marked

2046
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:32,320
that spot with these two blocks with

2047
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:32,880
these

2048
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:34,960
glyphs and so they say something and

2049
01:21:38,629 --> 01:21:36,880
they were there for a reason

2050
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:38,639
actually one of those glyphs i found a

2051
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:40,000
recent photo of it and

2052
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:41,440
one of those clips the one in the middle

2053
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,880
that looks like a little figure with a

2054
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:43,920
round head

2055
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:47,679
sort of a y-shaped body that is a glyph

2056
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:50,960
that in certain cultures that i study

2057
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:54,000
represents the concept of an ancestor

2058
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:56,880
now in some languages the circular head

2059
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:57,920
is not filled in

2060
01:22:01,750 --> 01:21:59,520
in other languages it's filled in with

2061
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:01,760
the naki or the noxi

2062
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,880
in tibet they fill in that head and the

2063
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:07,280
implication is it represents them as

2064
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:09,120
being black people it's understood that

2065
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,080
the naki

2066
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:12,719
in tibet were originally black africans

2067
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:13,600
and

2068
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:17,679
tibet

2069
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:19,360
took on the meaning of black even though

2070
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,320
it didn't in egypt or other places

2071
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,080
in china where it was unusual to see a

2072
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:26,719
black person um

2073
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:29,199
uh that round head represented uh the

2074
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:31,360
idea of a black ancestor

2075
01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:34,320
so it's very interesting to see that um

2076
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:35,760
that figure here because that's uh

2077
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:38,719
that's a glyph you can see with the um

2078
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:43,760
bombera in africa uh the knock key habit

2079
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:46,239
i've seen similar drawings like on

2080
01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:46,960
dougan

2081
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:51,040
cliff drawings that's a very interesting

2082
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:54,239
yeah it is and then uh so the the the

2083
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:54,560
two

2084
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:57,520
on either side i the the one up on top i

2085
01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:59,280
don't even know how to explain it it's

2086
01:23:02,950 --> 01:23:01,040
it's square on the top it's around on

2087
01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:02,960
the bottom there is a

2088
01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:06,400
uh uh an unpainted round

2089
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:07,920
uh section in the middle where you can

2090
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:09,920
see the stone coming through

2091
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,159
i don't even know how to describe that

2092
01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:13,760
and then the other one

2093
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:16,719
is uh like a parallelogram the one

2094
01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:18,400
that's on the right

2095
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,760
right and also the uh uh right below the

2096
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:22,800
two legs

2097
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:26,000
on the stick figure dude um uh

2098
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,360
if clearly are two uh

2099
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:31,120
dots i don't know if those

2100
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:32,800
representations those were extensions

2101
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:34,239
originally at the leg and maybe

2102
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:35,679
something got

2103
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:39,120
has deteriorated but yeah very

2104
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,840
interesting

2105
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:42,159
and i've i've always i've always

2106
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:44,080
wondered about that how did we go off on

2107
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:44,960
that i loved

2108
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:48,400
gate and brink's door man well that

2109
01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:51,760
those um those uh shafts

2110
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,199
um seem to have an alignment with this

2111
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:57,360
this chamber that they discovered

2112
01:24:01,350 --> 01:23:59,360
so it's theoretically possible there's

2113
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:01,360
some some theorists who are saying

2114
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,760
uh look maybe these doors are are an

2115
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:05,760
entryway into that chamber that they

2116
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:06,560
have never

2117
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:10,560
seen before um yeah and um

2118
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:13,760
the there's a

2119
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:16,080
an archaeologist by the name of let's

2120
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:22,470
julio magli who wrote an academic paper

2121
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,120
this is the

2122
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:25,520
uh the the paper that's speculating that

2123
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:26,159
um

2124
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:28,400
maybe they've discovered a throne in

2125
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:30,560
there right and his idea is that that

2126
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:31,760
throne

2127
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,040
might be situated at the far end of that

2128
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,960
that new chamber where it would align

2129
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:38,480
with the apex of the

2130
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:41,920
the pyramid um he doesn't have he's not

2131
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:44,320
saying that he has firm

2132
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:47,120
factual information to base that idea on

2133
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:48,400
but

2134
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,960
i'm sure based on textual references

2135
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,560
that he has

2136
01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:54,960
inferred this in one way or another well

2137
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:56,560
i wanted to ask you this

2138
01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:59,760
if they were able to get into which

2139
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:01,440
apparently they have they've gotten into

2140
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:02,719
this new chamber that

2141
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:05,840
is discovered how do they pull that off

2142
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:08,719
with all of the tourism you know this is

2143
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:10,840
at the top of the grand gallery i'm

2144
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:13,120
envisioning you know the entrance at the

2145
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:14,880
top of the grand gallery at the top of

2146
01:25:17,669 --> 01:25:16,320
the stairs before you get into the

2147
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:17,679
king's chamber

2148
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,760
that that's where they would access it

2149
01:25:23,590 --> 01:25:21,280
and and move up into it

2150
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:23,600
how could they do that without being

2151
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,320
discovered or seen doing this

2152
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:28,960
well i know that periodically the the

2153
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:29,760
great pyramid

2154
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:32,000
is not available to tourists to go into

2155
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,360
you know there are periods of time

2156
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,840
where it's closed but it seems like that

2157
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:37,199
would be an awfully public

2158
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:40,880
area to be trying to carve out rock or

2159
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:42,159
whatever to try to

2160
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:43,760
get into a chamber it should be pretty

2161
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:44,960
obvious if they were doing it they'd be

2162
01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:45,920
packing out

2163
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:48,239
material that they dug out and there'd

2164
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:50,000
be dust and there'd be

2165
01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:52,159
noise and hide i'm not sure how they

2166
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,840
would hide that

2167
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:55,440
yeah and so and you've been in the

2168
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:57,040
king's chamber right so when you're at

2169
01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:59,199
the top of those stairs

2170
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:01,199
and you look up where the three trap

2171
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:03,199
doors right the three trap

2172
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,159
uh granite blocks uh were originally

2173
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,719
sealing uh the king's chamber

2174
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:11,679
um when you go i haven't been in there

2175
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:13,840
i've seen enough video of it

2176
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:16,400
but uh wouldn't it be obvious to

2177
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,440
tourists that

2178
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:19,920
later after they've blasted into this

2179
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:20,639
entrance or

2180
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,639
how jackhammered into it however they

2181
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:24,080
did it that

2182
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:27,280
it would be obvious to tourists that are

2183
01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:28,400
or other

2184
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:30,239
people that you know frequent what about

2185
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,320
the tour guides and the other

2186
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:34,560
uh amateur egyptologists that are

2187
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:35,520
hanging out at the

2188
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,080
the the the giza plateau that they would

2189
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:40,560
walk up and go hey wait a minute

2190
01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:42,080
well there are others there's narrow

2191
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:43,679
passageways i mean even the grand

2192
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:44,800
gallery is off of

2193
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:47,520
uh narrow and narrow passageways so

2194
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,239
there's not

2195
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,480
nothing saying that there might not be

2196
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,639
um something that's out of the way that

2197
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:54,000
they could be working in an area they

2198
01:26:57,990 --> 01:26:55,360
can be working in

2199
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:58,000
that your average tourist wouldn't see

2200
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,400
but

2201
01:27:01,990 --> 01:27:00,480
still just the way the pyramid you know

2202
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:02,000
conducts sound

2203
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,360
how would they ever hide the fact that

2204
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:05,280
they were drilling or or

2205
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,719
using explosives to blow out and and how

2206
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:10,080
what could they possibly do that's not

2207
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:11,760
going to be permanently defacing of the

2208
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,719
interior of the

2209
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:14,800
the pyramid now there's also another

2210
01:27:17,830 --> 01:27:16,239
rumor going around

2211
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:17,840
we're at the bottom of the hour only got

2212
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,920
about a minute but there's another rumor

2213
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,440
going around that they've uh

2214
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,440
discovered we knew that they discovered

2215
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:25,280
another chamber last year through the

2216
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:28,000
same project the scans pyramid project

2217
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:30,880
and that there may be a passage

2218
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,159
connecting

2219
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:34,400
the lower chamber that is next to the

2220
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:35,440
ground

2221
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:38,719
to this chamber up here uh do you think

2222
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:39,440
that that

2223
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:41,040
that they could have accessed it from

2224
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:42,880
the ground and not necessarily from the

2225
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,760
top

2226
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:45,280
yeah there's more going on there than

2227
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:47,840
they've let on they probably could

2228
01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:50,320
based on the scans that i saw or at

2229
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,639
least what they released publicly

2230
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:54,000
didn't look like there was anything

2231
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,280
connecting to that chamber it looked

2232
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:56,960
like it was isolated and there was there

2233
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:57,600
was no

2234
01:28:01,510 --> 01:27:59,920
um we didn't see any any kind of a

2235
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passageway to it

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but made it perhaps they only gave us

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the angles that didn't show it

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now there's uh we're going to talk about

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this when we come back

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um what do you call this new

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discover chamber there's a word for it

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01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:17,199
well they're calling it a void and i was

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01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:19,199
joking that it's a simple void avoid you

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here every day

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no no no i'm talking about uh the

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connection with scarabray

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oh okay um this is uh an idea that um

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william henry has put forward this is

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his theory he's suggesting

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this links to a concept in egyptian

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01:28:39,430 --> 01:28:36,800
mythology of an aquette

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01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:39,440
that uh a very specific chamber that the

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ki

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on his way to the sky

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and there's uh the concept of

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doorways or gateways to the sky this is

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a very important

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chamber so when we come back we're going

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to talk about the aquette

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and what you have uh put together and

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and what is going on at scarabray very

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interesting

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uh laird and i'm serious about this

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everything is connected all roads lead

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to egypt man

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they just do our guest tonight laird

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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laird scranton we're talking about egypt

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lots of things to discuss that is going

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now laird okay this is where the things

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for me

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start to get interesting um all roads

2365
01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:56,400
always seem to go to egypt some

2366
01:34:01,669 --> 01:33:59,520
somehow i had just announced earlier

2367
01:34:03,350 --> 01:34:01,679
uh tonight i was talking about the nazca

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01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:03,360
mummies and what uh

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01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:05,440
what guy has presented over there and

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01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:06,639
one of the things

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01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:08,560
you know the white powder that was on

2372
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:10,719
the outside of those mummies

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01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:13,920
turns out to be cadmium chloride

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01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:17,040
now cadmium chloride to be

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01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:19,679
used on a mummy 1500 years ago is pretty

2376
01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:20,880
interesting but that's

2377
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:24,000
that's pretty cool but it

2378
01:34:31,270 --> 01:34:27,920
it's found in nature in egyptian

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01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:31,280
date palm pollen and it's just like

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01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:34,639
wait a minute you know you know all

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01:34:39,350 --> 01:34:36,719
roads lead back to egypt right

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01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:39,360
and it's just that's right fascinating

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01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:39,920
to me

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01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:43,040
that a compound like this which is used

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01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:45,199
in modern industry it's it's a

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01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:47,760
you know it's used a cadmium yellow you

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01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:48,800
know for a dye

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01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:52,320
and and uh photocopying and

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01:34:58,470 --> 01:34:55,440
metal plating and electroplating

2390
01:35:00,229 --> 01:34:58,480
pretty uh pretty extensive use today but

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01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:00,239
that compound to be used

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01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:03,840
1500 years ago in peru when its

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01:35:09,350 --> 01:35:07,360
sources in nature are well amongst other

2394
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:09,360
things but its main star is the egyptian

2395
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:10,800
date palm pollen

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01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:13,679
and what they were using it for in egypt

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01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:16,000
thousands of years ago for fertility

2398
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:18,960
and and other things but again all roads

2399
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:21,119
lead back to egypt right

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01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:24,480
they sure do now uh which goes um up to

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01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:27,520
uh scarabray and so

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01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:30,320
i want you to when you were referring

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01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:30,880
back to

2404
01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:33,600
william henry's work one of the things

2405
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:35,520
that william henry has pointed out with

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01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:36,159
the uh

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01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:39,760
the the iron throne of osiris is

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01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:43,360
the the boats that the iron thrones were

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01:35:47,109 --> 01:35:44,639
placed on

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01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,119
showing movement going forward but you

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01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:48,960
found evidence of this

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01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:52,639
in scarabray yes that that same boat

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01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:53,199
image

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01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:56,560
uh very similar with uh the um the same

2415
01:36:02,310 --> 01:35:58,159
curved shape of the boat

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01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:02,320
the same um ore or rudder of the boat at

2417
01:36:11,109 --> 01:36:02,719
the

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01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:11,119
is a glyph that is found in

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01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:13,440
northern scotland in pictish times

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01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:14,880
there's one there's a

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01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:18,800
an original of one in kirkwall on orkney

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01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:20,880
island i've seen it

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01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:23,440
it's exactly the same figure i've posted

2424
01:36:29,109 --> 01:36:25,760
comparative figures a number of times

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01:36:32,149 --> 01:36:29,119
so this is a a pervasive symbol uh

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01:36:32,709 --> 01:36:32,159
it uh also there's an overturned version

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01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:32,719
of this

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01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:35,440
the same picture that has a relationship

2429
01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:36,000
to

2430
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:38,400
the end of an era the idea of a reversal

2431
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:39,520
of energy

2432
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:40,719
some people think we're going through a

2433
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:43,760
reversal of energy right now

2434
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:47,600
now the original theory here about this

2435
01:36:52,629 --> 01:36:50,880
chamber that william henry is working

2436
01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:52,639
from

2437
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,320
was it came out in a paper by a

2438
01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:58,320
an italian astrophysicist by the name of

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01:37:05,109 --> 01:37:00,639
giulio mogley

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01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:05,119
his specialty is focusing primarily on

2441
01:37:09,109 --> 01:37:06,960
the relationship between architect

2442
01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:09,119
ancient architecture and

2443
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:12,960
the sky so the ocad concept that

2444
01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:16,159
that william henry is talking about is

2445
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:18,639
a chamber that is thought to be situated

2446
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:22,080
at the horizon between just at the

2447
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:23,840
the tip of the horizon just before the

2448
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:26,960
sky uh there's an eastern ocket that

2449
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:28,719
most of the egyptian references are but

2450
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:31,280
there's also a western occupant

2451
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:34,320
that could have potential connections to

2452
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:34,639
the

2453
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:39,440
that

2454
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:42,480
but the attention is on the eastern

2455
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:48,629
he's imagining that this chamber is a

2456
01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:50,639
representation of that aqued this is a

2457
01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:51,760
place where

2458
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:55,119
um the it said that

2459
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:57,119
the pharaoh before reaching the stars of

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01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:59,199
the north will have to pass the gates of

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01:38:01,990 --> 01:37:59,840
the sky

2462
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:02,000
and sit on his throne of iron so if

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01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:04,639
mogly has discovered a throne of iron in

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01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:05,679
this chamber

2465
01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:07,440
then the implication is maybe we're

2466
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:08,960
looking at a chamber that represents

2467
01:38:13,109 --> 01:38:10,800
that okay either symbolically

2468
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:13,119
or physically and uh there's the

2469
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:14,080
question of

2470
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:15,760
was there the ability the actual

2471
01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:17,360
physical ability

2472
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:19,520
for something akin to teleportation out

2473
01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:21,280
of this chamber was connected to that

2474
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:22,159
throne

2475
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:26,239
um so even uh mogley flatly says that

2476
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:27,600
that his

2477
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:29,600
paper is specula speculative that

2478
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:31,119
there's right now there's not any

2479
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:34,000
any hard evidence to prove that that his

2480
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:35,920
point of view about it is right

2481
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:39,199
but the work the working uh buzz is that

2482
01:38:41,590 --> 01:38:39,600
they

2483
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:41,600
might have found this iron covered

2484
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:43,360
throne and that it might go on display

2485
01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:44,080
with the

2486
01:38:49,229 --> 01:38:46,719
grand egyptian museum now with an

2487
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:49,239
aquette when we talk about

2488
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:52,480
teleportation are we referring to this

2489
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:53,440
in a literal

2490
01:38:58,149 --> 01:38:56,400
sense well there are lots and lots of

2491
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:58,159
different references in egyptian texts

2492
01:39:01,830 --> 01:38:59,679
to

2493
01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:01,840
the pharaoh somehow being transformed

2494
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:03,040
into a star

2495
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:07,600
um ascending to the sky and so forth

2496
01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:09,520
he becomes a shining one a being of

2497
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:11,600
light and the aquat

2498
01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:14,800
which um was characterized as a mountain

2499
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:16,800
of light that's also a description that

2500
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:20,239
applies to the great pyramid um

2501
01:39:23,669 --> 01:39:21,520
it's possible that the purpose of the

2502
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:23,679
what the ancient egyptian temples was

2503
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:26,480
to try to aid that transformation or

2504
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:28,239
catalyze that transformation maybe this

2505
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:28,960
was a

2506
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:31,119
a tool that made that happen it depends

2507
01:39:35,109 --> 01:39:33,199
on if we take the egyptian references

2508
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:35,119
um literally or not if we take them

2509
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:36,560
strictly symbolic

2510
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:39,440
then there's the question of what could

2511
01:39:42,070 --> 01:39:40,719
they have been talking about here what

2512
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:42,080
were they trying to represent if they're

2513
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:42,639
not

2514
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:46,000
saying something literal um so we have

2515
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:46,560
two different

2516
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:50,320
mogley's limited statement that he

2517
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,159
thinks that he might have found

2518
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:55,119
the that throne or a representation of

2519
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:56,800
that throne and we have

2520
01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:59,760
william henry um taking that the next

2521
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:00,480
step

2522
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:03,600
and uh comparing it to the ocap

2523
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:07,280
um i think that

2524
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:10,880
william first presented that in um

2525
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:13,920
in uh one of his books i think in 2014

2526
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,440
uh the judgment day device is devoted to

2527
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:19,440
part of the subject yeah that's right

2528
01:40:22,950 --> 01:40:20,960
well but

2529
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:22,960
this is this is what i also find

2530
01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:24,159
interesting

2531
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:26,320
and i want to go back to scarabray with

2532
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:28,880
this too as well

2533
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,760
there's been no bodies found right in

2534
01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:33,280
the great pyramid there was nothing

2535
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:34,320
there

2536
01:40:38,950 --> 01:40:37,119
right did somebody teleport somewhere

2537
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:38,960
right

2538
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:43,440
bit crazy but we still don't know what

2539
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:44,400
the pyramid is

2540
01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:47,760
uh you know its ultimate use was for

2541
01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:50,719
it certainly wasn't a tomb so we take

2542
01:40:53,750 --> 01:40:52,080
that off of the list and we start

2543
01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,760
looking at these other

2544
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:56,159
uh aspects of it and certainly the iron

2545
01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:57,600
throne would indicate something but if

2546
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:00,639
there isn't a body there the body

2547
01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:06,070
that's right and and why would they i

2548
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:07,440
mean they have

2549
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:10,159
a granite sarcophagus uh in the king's

2550
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:11,199
chamber

2551
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:13,600
that they never discovered a body or any

2552
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:14,960
remains of a body

2553
01:41:19,669 --> 01:41:17,920
in that is the shape and configuration

2554
01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:19,679
of a body it looks like a casket that a

2555
01:41:23,350 --> 01:41:21,199
body would have been put into

2556
01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,360
why are they why are they symbolizing

2557
01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:25,520
just the casket and not

2558
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:28,159
um an actual burial why they got all

2559
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:29,440
this trouble to build

2560
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:32,239
this huge structure if they weren't

2561
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:33,520
actually going to bury somebody in it

2562
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:35,040
that's that's one of the mysteries

2563
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:37,119
was there ever you know what with

2564
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:38,800
everybody that i've had on the show i've

2565
01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:40,159
never asked

2566
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:43,440
was there ever a lid to that sarcophagus

2567
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:45,040
yeah as far as i know there was i don't

2568
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:46,719
know if it still exists or if it's been

2569
01:41:48,870 --> 01:41:48,320
damaged but i know there originally was

2570
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:48,880
a lid

2571
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:51,040
lid to that they found other charcoal

2572
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:52,560
guy like that that

2573
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:54,800
the lids are intact um i'm not sure

2574
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:57,040
about the one from the king's chamber

2575
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:58,800
but the one for the king this is what i

2576
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:01,280
also find strange it's it's too small to

2577
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:03,199
have put

2578
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:07,280
the other uh sarcophagus inside of right

2579
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:08,960
there's one inside of another inside of

2580
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:10,880
another i have seen

2581
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:14,159
the most massive sarcophagus uh you know

2582
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:15,840
at different museums

2583
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:18,080
and which would be you know five six

2584
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:18,880
seven eight

2585
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:22,480
feet too big for that one

2586
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:25,280
right and and and uh it would almost be

2587
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:26,800
a baby

2588
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:29,440
you know if you think about it it would

2589
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:29,920
be a

2590
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:32,639
short mummy if it was a another

2591
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:36,080
sarcophagus that was placed inside of it

2592
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:38,239
yeah in the case of the king's chamber

2593
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:40,000
the lid has never been found but they

2594
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:42,639
they have because of the lip along the

2595
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:43,840
edge of the

2596
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:46,400
the sarcophagus they know that it looks

2597
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:48,000
like there should have been lid

2598
01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:49,760
they just don't know what became of it

2599
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:51,760
right now

2600
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:54,239
this teleport okay so now let's go over

2601
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:56,639
to scarabray and that

2602
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,400
up there same same idea

2603
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:02,719
uh teleportation we're not not sure we

2604
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:04,960
have a naked and scarab ray but if

2605
01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:06,320
they're talking about okay in the

2606
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:08,480
tradition of you of egyptologists

2607
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:11,360
um when they talk about things in the

2608
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:12,000
west

2609
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:16,800
modern egyptologists say oh they're

2610
01:43:20,149 --> 01:43:18,880
talking about the the hilly area just

2611
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,159
west of the nile

2612
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:22,320
region that's as far as their their view

2613
01:43:27,430 --> 01:43:24,080
is going

2614
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:27,440
but some of the other early artifacts on

2615
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,679
on scarab ray or scarab is one of them

2616
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:31,440
on orkney island

2617
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,880
make it look as if maybe some of the

2618
01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:34,800
references were pointing as far away as

2619
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:38,080
as northern scotland that's what when i

2620
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:39,520
one of my books is about it's called the

2621
01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:41,040
mystery of sacarabray

2622
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:44,320
so i've just speculated that

2623
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:47,280
if there's a concept of a western acad

2624
01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:49,280
perhaps it's associated with that

2625
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:52,880
region up there um i don't have any any

2626
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:53,520
firm

2627
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:57,360
information about that i can compare to

2628
01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:59,520
william henry's idea here of a knockhead

2629
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:00,560
in the

2630
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:04,880
lots of references

2631
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:07,600
wallace budz writes about the aquette a

2632
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:09,119
number of different authors

2633
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:11,280
uh write about it i've got actually

2634
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:13,199
quite a bit of information alan alford

2635
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:14,639
of the mid who wrote a book called the

2636
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:16,320
midnight sun

2637
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:18,400
has an entire chapter on the concept of

2638
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:26,149
he considers it to be a third what realm

2639
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:27,119
you have the

2640
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:30,159
underworld and they have the akad and

2641
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:30,719
the ocad

2642
01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,400
is treated in a lot of attacks as if it

2643
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:34,480
were a separate realm from from those

2644
01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:35,440
other two

2645
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:38,639
um there it's a very

2646
01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:41,040
enigmatic uh subject nobody has a good

2647
01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:43,040
fix on where it was located or what it

2648
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:44,239
really was

2649
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:46,320
um another thing that might associate it

2650
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:47,520
with

2651
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:50,320
the orkney island region is that it's

2652
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:52,719
they talk about it being a place of

2653
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:57,360
water or near water which uh orkney is

2654
01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:59,040
also talking about um they're being

2655
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:01,440
associated with the field of reeds which

2656
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:02,719
is a

2657
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:05,520
concept that i also associate with with

2658
01:45:10,070 --> 01:45:06,320
orkney

2659
01:45:11,990 --> 01:45:10,080
but um all of the important egyptian

2660
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:12,000
references are to the eastern akka which

2661
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:13,760
would be something located

2662
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,440
in egypt or possibly east of egypt

2663
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:19,920
as far as what do you think you can go

2664
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:20,480
into

2665
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,560
um hard to say if it goes that far i

2666
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,320
mean traditionally it's interpreted as

2667
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:30,400
being egypt egypt is sort of the

2668
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:32,239
eastern boundary of what they're they're

2669
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:34,400
talking about i don't know of any

2670
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:36,719
um anybody who's interpreting things as

2671
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:39,040
being a lot farther east than that

2672
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:42,239
um sometimes they talk about a gateway

2673
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:45,760
to um

2674
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:48,480
a gateway to egypt or a gateway to a

2675
01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:50,320
mythical region associated with egypt

2676
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:51,760
that they might place okay

2677
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:54,960
they say if there is another

2678
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:57,040
locality that we don't know about then

2679
01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:58,960
perhaps that's farther east than egypt

2680
01:46:01,510 --> 01:46:00,159
is but mostly

2681
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:01,520
egypt becomes the east sort of the

2682
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,920
eastern boundary we talked about

2683
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:05,600
two sphinxes there was supposedly an

2684
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:07,600
eastern and western sphinx

2685
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:10,480
and so the strengths of giza is treated

2686
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:11,199
as the

2687
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,760
the eastern one nobody has come up with

2688
01:46:16,709 --> 01:46:15,520
an example of the western one but again

2689
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,719
you could imagine that

2690
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:18,320
you know how far west are they talking

2691
01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:19,679
or if we're just talking the west side

2692
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:20,639
of the nile

2693
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:22,639
there's a chance we'll find it if

2694
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,080
they're talking all the way out

2695
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:26,560
to the edge of the the atlantic ocean

2696
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:28,000
maybe we won't

2697
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:30,400
now the the other interesting thing for

2698
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:31,840
me when we're talking about

2699
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:34,880
an entrance or portal or some the

2700
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:35,920
possibility

2701
01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:39,199
of teleportation we always picture

2702
01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:42,000
one direction but i was talking to you

2703
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:43,679
about this earlier what about

2704
01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:47,040
this being bi-directional well

2705
01:46:52,229 --> 01:46:50,159
cats are associated with um huma

2706
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,239
you know somebody from the material

2707
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:54,000
world ascending to the non-material but

2708
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:55,600
they're also associated with going the

2709
01:47:00,390 --> 01:46:56,719
other direction

2710
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:00,400
what's not clear is whether there were

2711
01:47:04,950 --> 01:47:02,880
different gateways for those two

2712
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:04,960
different functions

2713
01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:07,119
if if there actually was a structure

2714
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:08,159
that you could use

2715
01:47:13,109 --> 01:47:11,360
as a gateway to move to another realm

2716
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:13,119
would the same gateway let you come back

2717
01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:14,880
or would you need a second one to do

2718
01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:15,679
that

2719
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:17,679
somebody exactly yeah somebody just

2720
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:18,719
posted speaking

2721
01:47:22,229 --> 01:47:20,480
about exactly what we're just talking

2722
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:22,239
about going back to the gate and brink

2723
01:47:26,310 --> 01:47:23,840
image that we were talking about that

2724
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,320
that i thought was a humanoid figure

2725
01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:28,719
somebody just said that that the bottom

2726
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:31,199
part of it is a pyramid

2727
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,760
and and the top part is a solar orb

2728
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:38,080
now we're getting that's pretty

2729
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,030
okay yeah the powers of suggestion now i

2730
01:47:50,470 --> 01:47:47,600
no longer see a humanoid figure

2731
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:50,480
i see the pyramid with a array of light

2732
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:51,760
and the sun above

2733
01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:54,960
and there's your star gate

2734
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:57,040
well that could be too you know that and

2735
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,119
without some kind of a textual reference

2736
01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:01,199
to guide us as to what these things are

2737
01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:04,800
there it's open to speculation

2738
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:06,719
what do you what you know what do you

2739
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,080
make of that

2740
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:11,040
we don't have an owner's manual for the

2741
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:12,239
gray pyramid

2742
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:13,600
right we don't have we don't have an

2743
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:15,440
owner's manual for a lot of things i

2744
01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,960
don't have an owner's manual for

2745
01:48:20,550 --> 01:48:18,800
my coffee machine over the house i throw

2746
01:48:22,790 --> 01:48:20,560
it in the trash

2747
01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:22,800
and and so if you think about it you

2748
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:23,920
know 10

2749
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,239
000 years in the future 2 000 years in

2750
01:48:30,629 --> 01:48:28,080
the future if somebody finds

2751
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:30,639
a coffee machine or a cd player they

2752
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:32,080
wouldn't know what that was used

2753
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:35,360
for that's right right

2754
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:42,550
the these uh these speculative questions

2755
01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:42,960
without

2756
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:46,719
think the hope is that

2757
01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:47,920
one of these chambers they're going to

2758
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,320
stumble on either below the giza plateau

2759
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:52,239
below the sphinx inside the great

2760
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:53,600
pyramid

2761
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:54,960
maybe in some of the other places that

2762
01:48:59,510 --> 01:48:57,040
they're looking that they will stumble

2763
01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:59,520
across a trove of texts that will

2764
01:49:02,470 --> 01:49:00,400
explain

2765
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:02,480
things we don't understand i know in

2766
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:06,000
places like india and timbuktu you have

2767
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:08,239
rumors of underground libraries that are

2768
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:09,119
filled with

2769
01:49:12,629 --> 01:49:11,119
ancient texts that have been copied and

2770
01:49:14,229 --> 01:49:12,639
re-copied and so forth

2771
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:14,239
if they could find something like that

2772
01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:16,800
and possibly it's possible that

2773
01:49:21,589 --> 01:49:19,040
zoe howas has discovered something like

2774
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:21,599
that and and just isn't telling anybody

2775
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:23,679
um then we might have the potential view

2776
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:25,440
to sort some of these things out

2777
01:49:31,589 --> 01:49:26,400
absolutely

2778
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:31,599
now with your uh with your translations

2779
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,960
of different symbols

2780
01:49:36,790 --> 01:49:35,040
uh over the years through the dog and

2781
01:49:39,669 --> 01:49:36,800
all the way over to egypt

2782
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:39,679
where you have clearly represented uh

2783
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:42,719
atomic and subatomic symbolism which

2784
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:45,920
to me is very clear when you explain it

2785
01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:46,639
but it's

2786
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:48,239
mind-blowing that they could have had

2787
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:49,760
this kind of information

2788
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:52,560
when you tie that into something like

2789
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:52,880
the

2790
01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:57,840
for something we don't know what it does

2791
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:01,119
but could it be that

2792
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:03,599
technically advanced could it are we

2793
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:05,440
really talking about the possibility of

2794
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:06,320
this being

2795
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:09,360
an energy device a teleportation device

2796
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:11,520
communication device to another planet

2797
01:50:16,629 --> 01:50:14,639
or another solar system

2798
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:16,639
well in the ancient philosophies that

2799
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,400
this all this stuff is based on there's

2800
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:20,320
a philosophy called samkhya

2801
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:22,639
and that the viewpoint of samkhya is

2802
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:24,000
that universes form

2803
01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:25,840
in pairs you have a non-material and a

2804
01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:27,119
material universe that

2805
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:30,639
are essentially twin universes

2806
01:50:35,990 --> 01:50:33,679
and the idea is that under certain

2807
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,000
conditions it is possible to

2808
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:38,080
to cross over from one to the other as a

2809
01:50:41,350 --> 01:50:39,840
matter of fact that's represented

2810
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:41,360
it's a concept that's represented in

2811
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:43,360
connection with the equinox

2812
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:46,400
the idea of of uh balancing things out

2813
01:50:48,870 --> 01:50:47,920
in a way that you can now cross over

2814
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:48,880
between those

2815
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:52,000
universes so if that actually is

2816
01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:54,080
true if we could take that as a literal

2817
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:55,119
statement that that

2818
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:56,960
there are two universes and it's

2819
01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:59,119
theoretically possible to cross

2820
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:01,119
then it's easy to imagine that you might

2821
01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:03,199
have needed a lot of energy to do that

2822
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:05,119
and now you have a possible rationale

2823
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:07,360
for why you have this

2824
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:10,480
energetic uh stone structure or

2825
01:51:14,310 --> 01:51:12,239
energetically related stone structure

2826
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,320
there are lots of theories as to what

2827
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,719
why the stone was built out of had to

2828
01:51:21,510 --> 01:51:18,400
have certain properties that

2829
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:21,520
connect to energy um christopher dunn's

2830
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:22,320
a good one

2831
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:25,280
uh to explain the ins and outs of that i

2832
01:51:29,589 --> 01:51:26,400
just got a post

2833
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:29,599
uh from janine she says

2834
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:33,199
uh that they were in egypt last

2835
01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:36,639
week uh no signs of a new path

2836
01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:40,000
out or cut out for new exploration

2837
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:42,880
isn't that interesting yes very

2838
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:43,440
interesting

2839
01:51:49,109 --> 01:51:46,560
wait see this audience right right there

2840
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,119
laird what does that tell you

2841
01:51:53,189 --> 01:51:51,360
that's great you know having re

2842
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:53,199
resources at the fingertips is always a

2843
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,800
good idea this is why i love going to

2844
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:56,080
conferences because

2845
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:58,560
everybody brings their own significant

2846
01:52:01,350 --> 01:51:59,920
piece you know their own experience

2847
01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:01,360
their own viewpoint their own

2848
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:04,560
particular niche of study and

2849
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:07,199
amazing what like pops out this is also

2850
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:08,800
why my friend ed nightingale would

2851
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:10,000
really love to get

2852
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:12,080
you know researchers from different

2853
01:52:15,830 --> 01:52:13,679
fields together to talk about

2854
01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:15,840
some single subject and just focus on it

2855
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:16,880
for a weekend

2856
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:19,199
and try to bring all the minds to bear

2857
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:20,639
on answering a problem

2858
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:22,960
yeah and really quick uh i'm glad you

2859
01:52:25,109 --> 01:52:24,480
mentioned that we're at the top of the

2860
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,119
hour but

2861
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,760
uh you and ed have got a presentation

2862
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:29,679
you guys are doing tell us about that

2863
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:30,880
that's right we're doing uh

2864
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:33,440
what we're calling a day of instruction

2865
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:34,639
at vassar college

2866
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:37,520
on ancient cosmology on saturday april

2867
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:38,800
21st

2868
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:40,960
and it'll be two sessions i'll be doing

2869
01:52:46,709 --> 01:52:43,360
the first session at 9 30 in the morning

2870
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:46,719
uh sort of an uh a survey course on

2871
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,320
ancient cosmology

2872
01:52:51,910 --> 01:52:50,800
and then after a break for lunch then ed

2873
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:51,920
will be doing a session

2874
01:52:56,550 --> 01:52:55,360
all afternoon about um his plan for the

2875
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:56,560
giza plateau

2876
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:00,800
um um his plan predicts and he

2877
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:04,080
explains the positioning and the size

2878
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:05,599
and shape and angles of all the

2879
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,599
structures you see on the giza plateau

2880
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:09,520
evokes all sorts of really interesting

2881
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:12,000
um values like the value of a

2882
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:15,119
acute of both kinds of qubits

2883
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:16,800
uh values of all sorts of units of

2884
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:19,440
measure the the musical scale the speed

2885
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:20,639
of light

2886
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:22,400
all sorts of interesting things and then

2887
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:23,760
also

2888
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,199
um shows how those are a reflection of

2889
01:53:31,030 --> 01:53:29,280
motions in the heavens above the plateau

2890
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:31,040
just as robert boval

2891
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:33,679
says the the pyramids three pyramids of

2892
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:34,960
giza represent the

2893
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:38,239
belt stars of orion ed's got

2894
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:39,920
rotational cycles of the heavens

2895
01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:41,440
connected to what you see on the ground

2896
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:42,719
at giza

2897
01:53:46,709 --> 01:53:45,679
uh really interesting stuff yeah and ed

2898
01:53:49,750 --> 01:53:46,719
and to me

2899
01:53:52,629 --> 01:53:49,760
uh is one of the uh

2900
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:52,639
you know he's he's our age but he is

2901
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:53,360
certainly

2902
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:56,880
new for us and we need fresh minds

2903
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:59,119
talking about this as often as we can

2904
01:54:02,470 --> 01:54:01,040
but his research i think is as

2905
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:02,480
groundbreaking

2906
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:05,440
as as any of uh the others you know

2907
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:07,199
graham hancock or baval

2908
01:54:12,310 --> 01:54:10,400
or jaws or yourself ed is right there

2909
01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:12,320
with the rest of him isn't he

2910
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:14,560
yeah he really is and um he's been

2911
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:16,400
working from very precise satellite

2912
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:18,000
images of the giza

2913
01:54:21,669 --> 01:54:20,239
structures uh one of the things he's

2914
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:21,679
discovered is that

2915
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:23,920
there were three major surveys done of

2916
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:25,040
the giza plateau

2917
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:28,320
over the last century and a half or so

2918
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:32,159
and he his examination of that shows

2919
01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:32,560
that

2920
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:35,520
certain values were misstated sometimes

2921
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,679
wildly misstated in these other surveys

2922
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,080
is sometimes off by 30 feet from what

2923
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:41,840
the actual measurement is

2924
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:44,960
and i think his outlook is that you know

2925
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:46,000
if you misstate

2926
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:49,119
the right facts you can you can disguise

2927
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,040
what's being represented

2928
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:53,840
um but he's a he's a brilliant guy he's

2929
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:55,280
been working on this for 20 years

2930
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:55,920
actually he

2931
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:58,320
he went to egypt with john anthony west

2932
01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:00,560
uh that's what inspired him to um

2933
01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:01,840
he was standing in the center of the

2934
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:04,159
giza plateau uh with a

2935
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,199
craftsman craftsman's mindset

2936
01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:10,080
and could see what he considered to be

2937
01:55:15,350 --> 01:55:13,280
the center of the plan and thought wow

2938
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:15,360
this was designed i got to figure this

2939
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:16,320
out

2940
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:19,840
yeah his his uh representations of that

2941
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:23,119
uh when they only make sense and and i

2942
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:25,040
remember the first time that i looked at

2943
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:25,840
how he had

2944
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:29,040
had it laid out i'm like this why hasn't

2945
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:29,920
anybody

2946
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:32,800
done this before yeah ed's work is

2947
01:55:36,229 --> 01:55:34,560
mind-blowing now when we come back we're

2948
01:55:37,109 --> 01:55:36,239
going to go to a break here in just a

2949
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:37,119
second

2950
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:40,239
but now uh the the next rumor out of

2951
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:41,040
giza

2952
01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:44,320
is the tomb of nefertiti that

2953
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:47,520
now that this has been discovered and

2954
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:50,639
is is actually covered up uh when you

2955
01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:52,480
hear news like this what do you think is

2956
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:54,719
actually going on

2957
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:57,840
well again they're they're using

2958
01:56:02,629 --> 01:56:00,960
modern technology to try to

2959
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:02,639
sort out where there might be things

2960
01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:05,119
buried that they aren't aware of

2961
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:07,599
and this is a big possibility i mean

2962
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,239
which

2963
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:10,000
king tut's tomb was probably the biggest

2964
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:11,440
thing that was discovered has been

2965
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:13,520
discovered in egypt in terms of

2966
01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:15,840
wealth of riches and wealth of artifacts

2967
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:17,199
and and

2968
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:20,000
information about the period of around

2969
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:21,199
1400

2970
01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:26,320
bc so that's a definite possibility for

2971
01:56:30,310 --> 01:56:28,159
research for someone to try to find

2972
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:30,320
other related tombs

2973
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:33,520
and the when we come back we're going to

2974
01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:35,199
talk about we've all heard about the

2975
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:36,880
valley of the kings

2976
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:39,040
but there's also the valley of the

2977
01:56:44,870 --> 01:56:40,000
monkeys

2978
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:44,880
i'm pretty sure i saw that on the tv

2979
01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:48,239
show in the 1960s

2980
01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:51,520
that's good and stuff

2981
01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:52,800
when we come back we can talk about what

2982
01:56:55,910 --> 01:56:54,080
the significance of the valley of the

2983
01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:55,920
monkeys is and also the valley of the

2984
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:56,560
kings

2985
01:57:00,709 --> 01:56:58,480
absolutely our guest tonight the one and

2986
01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,719
only laird scranton this is fade to

2987
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:02,400
black i'm your host jimmy church

2988
01:57:05,669 --> 01:57:03,760
talking about everything that's going

2989
01:57:08,470 --> 01:57:05,679
down right now in in

2990
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:08,480
in egypt in giza there's a lot of stuff

2991
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:10,320
happening right now is faded black our

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2993
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:14,990
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2994
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now laird the valley of the monkeys what

3108
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:03,520
are we talking about here how come

3109
02:02:06,950 --> 02:02:05,440
this hasn't been brought up before and

3110
02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:06,960
as you answer that

3111
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:10,400
it turns out that the one and only zahi

3112
02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:13,520
haiwas is leading this expedition i

3113
02:02:17,189 --> 02:02:14,159
thought he was

3114
02:02:18,950 --> 02:02:17,199
banned from egypt why he's been sort of

3115
02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:18,960
in and out of favor you know he

3116
02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:20,400
there was a period of time where he was

3117
02:02:22,950 --> 02:02:22,320
banned and where i think he was actually

3118
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:22,960
under

3119
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:25,199
house arrest for a while i know that

3120
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:26,719
some of the conferences i was at that he

3121
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:28,480
was on the same venue that he

3122
02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:32,000
made his presentation uh remotely uh but

3123
02:02:35,589 --> 02:02:34,960
um uh apparently now he's uh back to

3124
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:35,599
work again

3125
02:02:40,229 --> 02:02:39,040
and he's um busy with his next project

3126
02:02:43,430 --> 02:02:40,239
which is great

3127
02:02:45,669 --> 02:02:43,440
which is this uh

3128
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:45,679
the valley of this yeah the valley of

3129
02:02:48,709 --> 02:02:47,520
the monkeys where is the valley of the

3130
02:02:50,070 --> 02:02:48,719
monkeys

3131
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:50,080
okay let's give you a little bit of

3132
02:02:55,189 --> 02:02:52,000
background back in the

3133
02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:55,199
early dynastic times in egypt um the

3134
02:02:58,229 --> 02:02:57,040
place to be buried if you were somebody

3135
02:03:01,030 --> 02:02:58,239
was abidos

3136
02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:01,040
which is with the first capital of of

3137
02:03:04,870 --> 02:03:02,080
ancient

3138
02:03:06,629 --> 02:03:04,880
of dynastic egypt um and everyone

3139
02:03:07,910 --> 02:03:06,639
they're all sorts of uh

3140
02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:07,920
chambers and things that are not very

3141
02:03:12,950 --> 02:03:10,159
well preserved in that area that

3142
02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:12,960
are a focus of early egyptian studies

3143
02:03:17,189 --> 02:03:15,119
later on

3144
02:03:19,109 --> 02:03:17,199
the pharaohs decided they wanted to be

3145
02:03:23,270 --> 02:03:19,119
buried in the valley of the kings

3146
02:03:27,589 --> 02:03:23,280
which is farther

3147
02:03:30,790 --> 02:03:27,599
south on the nile river down past luxor

3148
02:03:33,430 --> 02:03:30,800
so the valley of the monkeys is an

3149
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:33,440
offshoot of that it's a side valley

3150
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:34,960
uh to the west of the valley of the

3151
02:03:40,070 --> 02:03:36,800
kings where there are

3152
02:03:42,709 --> 02:03:40,080
um probably 60 in the neighborhood of 64

3153
02:03:44,070 --> 02:03:42,719
uh tombs rock-cut tombs that are there

3154
02:03:46,070 --> 02:03:44,080
that were mostly

3155
02:03:47,750 --> 02:03:46,080
uh the burial chambers of kings that

3156
02:03:49,589 --> 02:03:47,760
followed king tut

3157
02:03:52,149 --> 02:03:49,599
in the era just after him remember king

3158
02:03:55,510 --> 02:03:52,159
tut was the son of akhnatan

3159
02:03:58,550 --> 02:03:55,520
and nefertiti was tut's wife

3160
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:58,560
um so i think what sally's involved with

3161
02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:01,119
right now is

3162
02:04:05,109 --> 02:04:04,000
the search okay king king tut's uh tomb

3163
02:04:08,149 --> 02:04:05,119
as i said was the

3164
02:04:11,750 --> 02:04:08,159
was when it was finally identified was

3165
02:04:14,390 --> 02:04:11,760
just filled with riches and uh

3166
02:04:14,790 --> 02:04:14,400
magnificent artifacts and uh just the

3167
02:04:18,470 --> 02:04:14,800
the

3168
02:04:20,069 --> 02:04:18,480
archaeologists have come across

3169
02:04:22,390 --> 02:04:20,079
so they would love to come across more

3170
02:04:25,189 --> 02:04:22,400
like that nefertiti

3171
02:04:26,390 --> 02:04:25,199
is a high enough profile figure in

3172
02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:26,400
ancient egyptian

3173
02:04:31,109 --> 02:04:29,520
history that it's possible that her

3174
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:31,119
burial chamber if they can find it would

3175
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:32,960
be filled with similar artifacts

3176
02:04:39,990 --> 02:04:36,880
so they've been using radar to search

3177
02:04:43,430 --> 02:04:40,000
the region of the valley of the monkeys

3178
02:04:44,629 --> 02:04:43,440
to try to find possible locations of of

3179
02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:44,639
her tomb

3180
02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:47,440
there are rumors that that they may have

3181
02:04:51,910 --> 02:04:48,719
they may think that they've

3182
02:04:52,870 --> 02:04:51,920
stumbled across it if they have again

3183
02:04:55,669 --> 02:04:52,880
this is a

3184
02:04:57,510 --> 02:04:55,679
a candidate for um presentation this

3185
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:57,520
would be produced spectacular

3186
02:05:01,270 --> 02:05:00,639
opening uh exhibit for the the grand

3187
02:05:03,589 --> 02:05:01,280
egyptian

3188
02:05:05,589 --> 02:05:03,599
museum if they could have something akin

3189
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:05,599
to king tut's tomb

3190
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:08,719
you know on display okay so i just got

3191
02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:09,760
this email

3192
02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:12,960
of from jeanine who was just with

3193
02:05:18,069 --> 02:05:16,480
uh william in egypt and she says they

3194
02:05:20,149 --> 02:05:18,079
found her tomb and are lining up

3195
02:05:22,550 --> 02:05:20,159
sponsors for the artifacts

3196
02:05:25,030 --> 02:05:22,560
to raise money this will be part of the

3197
02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:25,040
opening of the new cairo museum

3198
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:27,679
uh she says not sure if the pyramid

3199
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:29,119
artifacts will be part but it's

3200
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:29,840
definitely

3201
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:33,119
nefertiti i was there

3202
02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:35,360
yeah and she says uh but william may be

3203
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:41,910
well he he certainly deserves it uh

3204
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:45,040
william is uh you know he's always over

3205
02:05:49,669 --> 02:05:46,800
there and claire is the best

3206
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:49,679
and if somebody has got the scoop uh

3207
02:05:53,669 --> 02:05:50,800
here it would uh

3208
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:53,679
it would definitely uh be william and i

3209
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,679
couldn't think of anybody more deserving

3210
02:05:59,030 --> 02:05:57,520
uh than william henry so

3211
02:06:00,470 --> 02:05:59,040
i've been reaching out to william

3212
02:06:02,149 --> 02:06:00,480
speaking alert about this i've been

3213
02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:02,159
reaching out to william and

3214
02:06:06,149 --> 02:06:04,800
he's been in egypt and is also over in

3215
02:06:08,390 --> 02:06:06,159
italy right now

3216
02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:08,400
so as soon as he gets back uh we'll

3217
02:06:11,990 --> 02:06:09,760
bring him on the show we'll see

3218
02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:12,000
uh we'll try to find out exactly what's

3219
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:12,880
going on

3220
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:14,320
i know he doesn't want to blow his

3221
02:06:20,149 --> 02:06:17,199
sources um that's always a big deal

3222
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:20,159
over in egypt everybody you know i was

3223
02:06:23,189 --> 02:06:21,040
talking to

3224
02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:23,199
check this out i'm not going to say who

3225
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:24,800
but i was talking to

3226
02:06:29,189 --> 02:06:28,000
uh you know one of the uh so-called

3227
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:29,199
american

3228
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:31,199
egyptologist you know there's a lot of

3229
02:06:34,390 --> 02:06:32,320
guys out there that do

3230
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:34,400
and girls that do a lot of work that

3231
02:06:38,790 --> 02:06:35,920
told me ah

3232
02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:38,800
man i i can't speak until next year i've

3233
02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:40,159
got the biggest scoop

3234
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:42,159
in the history of egypt and i can't talk

3235
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:43,360
about it right now

3236
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,199
and it's just like man you know

3237
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:47,440
everybody is trying to scoop

3238
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:50,639
the next person with egypt

3239
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:53,679
right um i had uh misspoke earlier i had

3240
02:06:58,069 --> 02:06:54,560
said that uh

3241
02:07:01,830 --> 02:06:58,079
nefertiti was married to nefertiti was

3242
02:07:06,950 --> 02:07:01,840
yes um i meant to say but um

3243
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:09,750
um why do you think yeah i i make that

3244
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:11,119
mistake all the time and they're all

3245
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,960
from the same period too as well that

3246
02:07:17,669 --> 02:07:14,400
whole family

3247
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:17,679
um so it's easy to uh to to make that

3248
02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:18,880
kind of mistake

3249
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:20,800
and that top wasn't old enough i mean

3250
02:07:26,950 --> 02:07:22,800
that was the uh young man when he

3251
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:26,960
uh i mean um well he was married to his

3252
02:07:30,470 --> 02:07:27,599
sister

3253
02:07:31,350 --> 02:07:30,480
right well that happened a lot you see

3254
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:31,360
kingship in

3255
02:07:35,589 --> 02:07:33,760
uh the the pharaoh ship passed down to

3256
02:07:38,629 --> 02:07:35,599
the the wife

3257
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:38,639
so um if a man wanted to ascend to the

3258
02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:40,800
throne he had he had to be married to

3259
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:42,960
the the queen that had passed through so

3260
02:07:47,350 --> 02:07:44,239
there was a lot of

3261
02:07:48,709 --> 02:07:47,360
of um marriage of

3262
02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:48,719
children back and forth i mean you need

3263
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:51,760
a mobius strip to be able to track the

3264
02:07:55,270 --> 02:07:53,360
the genetic lineage of some of these

3265
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:55,280
people but there was a lot of

3266
02:07:58,870 --> 02:07:57,199
uh what we consider to be incest back

3267
02:08:01,350 --> 02:07:58,880
and forth uh marriages

3268
02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:01,360
uh maybe marriages just to accommodate

3269
02:08:06,149 --> 02:08:02,639
ascension to the throne

3270
02:08:09,830 --> 02:08:06,159
now why would king tut's wife not be

3271
02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:09,840
buried in his tomb or next to his tomb

3272
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:12,079
that's one of the one of the mysteries

3273
02:08:16,629 --> 02:08:13,840
one of the considerations that

3274
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:16,639
what happened here that also there's

3275
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:17,520
there are

3276
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:19,840
speculation that um what had been

3277
02:08:25,589 --> 02:08:22,480
prepared as her tomb was actually

3278
02:08:28,310 --> 02:08:25,599
used to bury somebody else so

3279
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:28,320
there's a question of did she fall out

3280
02:08:30,950 --> 02:08:28,960
of favor

3281
02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:30,960
was she buried someplace obscure are we

3282
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:32,639
not where they're not going to find a

3283
02:08:36,550 --> 02:08:33,440
tomb there was

3284
02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:36,560
a lot of back and forth about why why

3285
02:08:41,430 --> 02:08:38,159
wasn't she buried with

3286
02:08:43,270 --> 02:08:41,440
her husband now uh and what about

3287
02:08:44,709 --> 02:08:43,280
the other some of the other things when

3288
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:44,719
we're talking about giza

3289
02:08:49,510 --> 02:08:46,880
in that area certainly all the way down

3290
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:49,520
to abidos and the valley of the kings

3291
02:08:56,069 --> 02:08:53,360
like the halls of amenti and the

3292
02:08:57,589 --> 02:08:56,079
the idea of another city being buried

3293
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:57,599
under the sand

3294
02:09:01,910 --> 02:09:00,320
uh there that is certainly would

3295
02:09:05,430 --> 02:09:01,920
pre-date a dynastic

3296
02:09:08,629 --> 02:09:05,440
egypt and go back uh to the history of

3297
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,639
of the gods and and what was what was

3298
02:09:14,149 --> 02:09:10,159
there before

3299
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:14,159
uh what do you think about that um

3300
02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:15,760
these are always possibilities the

3301
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,239
problem is that dynastic egypt

3302
02:09:23,109 --> 02:09:20,239
emerges about the same time that writing

3303
02:09:25,750 --> 02:09:23,119
does so we don't have a lot of records

3304
02:09:27,030 --> 02:09:25,760
before the early dynasties in egypt

3305
02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:27,040
about

3306
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:30,480
what might be found and when we do have

3307
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:31,199
a later

3308
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:34,159
that reports it talks about a place it's

3309
02:09:37,990 --> 02:09:34,800
not

3310
02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:38,000
always clear if it was a

3311
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:41,360
a geographic place or a mythical place

3312
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:42,880
so there's always the possibility of

3313
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:45,360
stumbling on something

3314
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:47,840
my friends john john ward and maria

3315
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:48,480
nielsen

3316
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:51,840
uh um uncovered a lost temple

3317
02:09:56,149 --> 02:09:54,800
uh in the gable also scilla area um a

3318
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:56,159
year or two ago

3319
02:10:00,069 --> 02:09:58,639
um that made all the archaeology

3320
02:10:02,470 --> 02:10:00,079
magazines and stuff there

3321
02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:02,480
there's lots to be found uh and lots

3322
02:10:06,390 --> 02:10:04,239
that hasn't been excavated

3323
02:10:07,910 --> 02:10:06,400
um it's a anybody's guess as to what

3324
02:10:10,870 --> 02:10:07,920
we're gonna turn up

3325
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:10,880
and then we have the uh the discussion

3326
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:11,280
that

3327
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,320
actually

3328
02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:17,040
buried in king tut's tomb behind the

3329
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:19,040
south wall

3330
02:10:23,990 --> 02:10:22,000
well right and so um but now if they say

3331
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:24,000
they found nefertiti's tomb that's uh

3332
02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:25,599
that's a wonderful thing that

3333
02:10:29,270 --> 02:10:28,880
resolves a big set of issues uh also it

3334
02:10:32,870 --> 02:10:29,280
may

3335
02:10:35,589 --> 02:10:32,880
sites they've been looking for

3336
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:35,599
now who do you think uh we'll find out

3337
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:37,119
from william henry but i want your

3338
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:38,480
speculation on this

3339
02:10:42,750 --> 02:10:40,400
who do you think found it do you think

3340
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:42,760
it was an official

3341
02:10:46,149 --> 02:10:45,280
archaeological dig or do you think it

3342
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:46,159
was

3343
02:10:49,910 --> 02:10:48,960
one of the fringe researchers i have no

3344
02:10:52,550 --> 02:10:49,920
idea i mean

3345
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:52,560
there are fines turning up because

3346
02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:53,119
somebody

3347
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:56,800
digs uh in you know unofficially in

3348
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:57,760
their own

3349
02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:00,960
to hit something that's uh

3350
02:11:04,629 --> 02:11:03,280
a fine and they notify authorities or

3351
02:11:06,149 --> 02:11:04,639
maybe they're digging secretly and they

3352
02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:06,159
turn up something that they

3353
02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:09,599
they don't report um anybody's guess

3354
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:13,360
um sometimes things are found by

3355
02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:14,800
farmers who are powering a field

3356
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:16,400
sometimes they're found by somebody's

3357
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:19,440
dog going down into a crevice

3358
02:11:23,669 --> 02:11:22,320
and it's right you would hope that a

3359
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:23,679
traditional egyptologist is going to

3360
02:11:27,430 --> 02:11:25,440
come across these things and the tombs

3361
02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:27,440
won't get robbed and that artifacts will

3362
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:27,920
be

3363
02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:30,000
documented properly and so forth about

3364
02:11:34,229 --> 02:11:31,840
five years ago four years ago

3365
02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:34,239
i had one of the researchers tell me

3366
02:11:39,189 --> 02:11:35,520
privately

3367
02:11:42,390 --> 02:11:39,199
that the tomb of nefertiti was in

3368
02:11:42,790 --> 02:11:42,400
turkey and that it was it was dug up it

3369
02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:42,800
was

3370
02:11:54,550 --> 02:11:52,239
here we are five years later

3371
02:11:56,950 --> 02:11:54,560
that never happened and that kind of

3372
02:11:58,950 --> 02:11:56,960
misleading information

3373
02:12:00,550 --> 02:11:58,960
you know to throw me off of the scent to

3374
02:12:02,790 --> 02:12:00,560
throw others off of the scent

3375
02:12:04,709 --> 02:12:02,800
you know and it's again it goes back to

3376
02:12:08,069 --> 02:12:04,719
everybody trying to get this scoop

3377
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:08,079
about what's going on in egypt and it's

3378
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:10,400
it to me i don't understand why there's

3379
02:12:13,830 --> 02:12:11,280
so much

3380
02:12:15,510 --> 02:12:13,840
misleading information out there and why

3381
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:15,520
everybody wants to get the scoop on

3382
02:12:20,629 --> 02:12:16,719
somebody else instead of

3383
02:12:22,550 --> 02:12:20,639
cooperating with each other right

3384
02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:22,560
and uh theoretically there's all sorts

3385
02:12:25,270 --> 02:12:23,760
of artifacts um

3386
02:12:28,069 --> 02:12:25,280
that were covered over when they built

3387
02:12:31,350 --> 02:12:28,079
the uh the azwan dam

3388
02:12:32,069 --> 02:12:31,360
um to the south of of egypt who knows

3389
02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:32,079
what's

3390
02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:34,800
under water there that that somebody

3391
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:36,079
might have excavated if they hadn't

3392
02:12:38,629 --> 02:12:37,199
built that dam

3393
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:38,639
yeah you know i'm going to tell you a

3394
02:12:41,910 --> 02:12:40,239
little fact here that i find

3395
02:12:44,709 --> 02:12:41,920
interesting about the oswandama when

3396
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:44,719
they had to move that temple there

3397
02:12:53,990 --> 02:12:49,360
it took them they moved 2500 blocks

3398
02:12:57,350 --> 02:12:54,000
it took him eight years wow right

3399
02:12:58,709 --> 02:12:57,360
to move the temple eight years twenty

3400
02:13:00,310 --> 02:12:58,719
five hundred blocks

3401
02:13:02,069 --> 02:13:00,320
not two and a half twenty five hundred

3402
02:13:03,109 --> 02:13:02,079
blocks isn't that about two weeks work

3403
02:13:06,229 --> 02:13:03,119
for the ancients

3404
02:13:06,550 --> 02:13:06,239
that's you know it is it's just like

3405
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:06,560
that

3406
02:13:18,629 --> 02:13:15,280
talking about

3407
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:18,639
uh modern cranes and trucks and

3408
02:13:25,270 --> 02:13:21,199
hydraulic equipment and men and

3409
02:13:27,510 --> 02:13:25,280
and just every all the technology

3410
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:27,520
of modern engineering they could throw

3411
02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:30,719
at it 2500 blocks eight years

3412
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:33,760
wow and they moved it they moved it six

3413
02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:38,310
yeah a lot of these things were moved

3414
02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:40,079
further than that but i know they used

3415
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:41,840
to move the blocks by water you know up

3416
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:44,400
and down the nile

3417
02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,920
so i don't know what um what evidence

3418
02:13:51,910 --> 02:13:50,000
has been uncovered of them actually

3419
02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:51,920
doing that i know they have some artwork

3420
02:13:55,350 --> 02:13:53,760
that that indicates it

3421
02:13:57,189 --> 02:13:55,360
i'm not sure they've actually found like

3422
02:13:58,069 --> 02:13:57,199
the sludges that the blocks were moved

3423
02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:58,079
on and so forth

3424
02:14:01,270 --> 02:14:00,159
at some of the excavation sites i wanted

3425
02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:01,280
to ask you and

3426
02:14:04,629 --> 02:14:03,599
this always pops up and it just popped

3427
02:14:06,470 --> 02:14:04,639
up in twitter

3428
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:06,480
and i just wanted to throw this out at

3429
02:14:12,629 --> 02:14:08,800
you when do you

3430
02:14:13,430 --> 02:14:12,639
think the uh the that giza was built we

3431
02:14:15,189 --> 02:14:13,440
have uh

3432
02:14:16,470 --> 02:14:15,199
you know we've got three pyramids there

3433
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:16,480
and so we can talk about the great

3434
02:14:20,550 --> 02:14:17,840
pyramid we certainly have the

3435
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:20,560
the the sphinx but but when do you think

3436
02:14:22,550 --> 02:14:21,920
it was built and who do you think

3437
02:14:25,830 --> 02:14:22,560
actually

3438
02:14:26,229 --> 02:14:25,840
did it well the fact that there are

3439
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:26,239
aren't

3440
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:29,040
hieroglyphs in the pyramids in the in

3441
02:14:32,149 --> 02:14:30,719
the great pyramid in the three pyramids

3442
02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:32,159
at giza

3443
02:14:35,750 --> 02:14:34,320
says to me that they were built before

3444
02:14:39,030 --> 02:14:35,760
writing

3445
02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:39,040
because um

3446
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:41,040
their their writing is too too

3447
02:14:43,589 --> 02:14:42,880
widespread in the other structures to

3448
02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:43,599
think that they

3449
02:14:46,709 --> 02:14:45,040
they wouldn't have put something there

3450
02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:46,719
if they had a system of writing

3451
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:48,800
but symbolism tells us uh tells us

3452
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:49,840
certain things

3453
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:57,830
structures that were set on the ground

3454
02:15:02,229 --> 02:14:59,040
like shrines

3455
02:15:03,350 --> 02:15:02,239
were built with circular bases a circle

3456
02:15:06,229 --> 02:15:03,360
was represented

3457
02:15:07,189 --> 02:15:06,239
above our universe at that point in time

3458
02:15:10,390 --> 02:15:07,199
after

3459
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:10,400
midway through the the cycle since about

3460
02:15:15,350 --> 02:15:12,000
12 000 years ago

3461
02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:15,360
there was a switch in reverse reversal

3462
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:16,880
and symbolism in very many different

3463
02:15:20,629 --> 02:15:18,800
ways and one of the reversals is

3464
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:20,639
that now suddenly structures that were

3465
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:22,000
built with a round base are suddenly

3466
02:15:28,470 --> 02:15:25,440
built with a squared base the fact that

3467
02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:28,480
the pyramids have square bases says to

3468
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:30,159
me that they were built in the second

3469
02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:31,840
half of a cycle

3470
02:15:36,149 --> 02:15:33,920
um if you think of a 12 000 year half

3471
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:36,159
cycle if you think of a yuga cycle being

3472
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:39,040
25 000 years roughly and half of that is

3473
02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:41,360
roughly a little over 12 000 year

3474
02:15:47,830 --> 02:15:44,400
half cycle that

3475
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:47,840
the squared base is uh

3476
02:15:50,870 --> 02:15:50,400
appropriate to the second half of that

3477
02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:50,880
half

3478
02:15:55,510 --> 02:15:53,360
cycle now whether it was this cycle or

3479
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:55,520
not the yuga cycle supposedly

3480
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:58,079
go back this is this is a recurring

3481
02:15:59,990 --> 02:15:58,880
thing

3482
02:16:01,750 --> 02:16:00,000
so whether that would have been the

3483
02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:01,760
second half of the current cycle or

3484
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:03,679
second half of a previous cycle

3485
02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:05,520
it's hard to say i know john anthony

3486
02:16:09,270 --> 02:16:07,199
west was of an opinion

3487
02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:09,280
that it went back quite a long way i

3488
02:16:13,109 --> 02:16:10,239
think he was

3489
02:16:14,149 --> 02:16:13,119
citing figures like 30 000 years if you

3490
02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:14,159
would ask him

3491
02:16:17,750 --> 02:16:15,440
when the pyramids were built it would

3492
02:16:19,589 --> 02:16:17,760
have been at least then

3493
02:16:20,790 --> 02:16:19,599
i don't have a fix on it i can say that

3494
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:20,800
it looks to me like it was before

3495
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:22,960
written language which means before 3000

3496
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:23,920
bc

3497
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:25,840
and after the mid at the midpoint of the

3498
02:16:30,149 --> 02:16:27,840
cycle which if it was this cycle we'll

3499
02:16:31,669 --> 02:16:30,159
put it after 4000 bc

3500
02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:31,679
so that gives us about a thousand year

3501
02:16:34,950 --> 02:16:33,679
span where if it was built

3502
02:16:36,790 --> 02:16:34,960
if they were built the cycle they were

3503
02:16:39,830 --> 02:16:36,800
built then

3504
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:39,840
so that's an interesting take and

3505
02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:43,200
and i i study egypt and i

3506
02:16:48,469 --> 02:16:46,160
didn't really look at it in those terms

3507
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,479
i often wondered why there weren't any

3508
02:16:54,070 --> 02:16:50,319
hieroglyphics in there

3509
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:54,080
that we've all wondered that but

3510
02:16:58,070 --> 02:16:55,519
it was built before there were

3511
02:17:01,589 --> 02:16:58,080
hieroglyphics of course

3512
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:01,599
it's like the simplest answer

3513
02:17:07,910 --> 02:17:04,719
well no i'm being serious uh

3514
02:17:10,870 --> 02:17:07,920
why there there really hasn't been

3515
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:10,880
anybody uh to come forward and and

3516
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:12,000
ponder that

3517
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:15,120
have you put that out there before um

3518
02:17:18,950 --> 02:17:16,960
in interviews i've talked about it uh

3519
02:17:19,669 --> 02:17:18,960
but i mean it makes sense to me that

3520
02:17:21,589 --> 02:17:19,679
this

3521
02:17:23,509 --> 02:17:21,599
in my field of study there's there are

3522
02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:23,519
far more questions that you don't have a

3523
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:25,120
definitive answer to than the ones you

3524
02:17:27,669 --> 02:17:26,800
can answer so there are all these open

3525
02:17:30,870 --> 02:17:27,679
questions

3526
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:30,880
that's

3527
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:34,160
what i think is true

3528
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,240
but it's not something i can demonstrate

3529
02:17:40,309 --> 02:17:38,000
convincingly that it has to be true

3530
02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:40,319
just my impression well even when you go

3531
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:42,080
back to abidos and you look at the

3532
02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:45,280
uh the earliest uh tombs that are there

3533
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:46,319
going back to uh

3534
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:50,800
many menace uh there is something that

3535
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:52,880
has hieroglyphics on it whether it's

3536
02:17:56,070 --> 02:17:55,120
tags or you know small artifacts or

3537
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:56,080
whatever but there's

3538
02:18:02,389 --> 02:17:59,200
always hieroglyphics there

3539
02:18:04,950 --> 02:18:02,399
right right very often in

3540
02:18:06,950 --> 02:18:04,960
in temples of any kind in egypt in

3541
02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:06,960
dynastic egypt we see

3542
02:18:09,830 --> 02:18:08,319
you know hieroglyphs things that we know

3543
02:18:12,309 --> 02:18:09,840
when they were built and we know they

3544
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:12,319
were built in in dynastic times we see

3545
02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:14,479
hieroglyphic writing we see artwork we

3546
02:18:21,910 --> 02:18:20,309
carved carvings that might or might not

3547
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:21,920
be hieroglyphs

3548
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,960
but the fact that there is none inside

3549
02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:26,880
the great pyramid

3550
02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:28,160
i mean the thing that makes sense to me

3551
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:30,080
is that it was built before

3552
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:32,319
before we had um written language now

3553
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:34,559
what about the other two pyramids there

3554
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:38,080
uh when we look at like mencare and

3555
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:40,319
we have all of the chambers that we know

3556
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:41,120
exist in

3557
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:44,399
in the great pyramid there is never

3558
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:46,719
any talk about the possibility of

3559
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:47,920
something being in

3560
02:18:51,429 --> 02:18:50,319
in makari uh what do you think about

3561
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:51,439
that

3562
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,800
well now we're getting into ed

3563
02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:54,639
nightingale's area that

3564
02:18:58,870 --> 02:18:57,040
one of the pyramids there is very clear

3565
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:58,880
from his work is there to establish

3566
02:19:03,349 --> 02:19:00,479
units of measure

3567
02:19:05,190 --> 02:19:03,359
and we have the same values being given

3568
02:19:05,910 --> 02:19:05,200
redundantly in several different units

3569
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:05,920
of measure

3570
02:19:12,549 --> 02:19:09,200
and we have geometry that's evoking

3571
02:19:14,790 --> 02:19:12,559
what those measures are so one of the

3572
02:19:17,669 --> 02:19:14,800
pyramids is primarily about

3573
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,679
land unit of measures in human scale

3574
02:19:21,349 --> 02:19:19,120
units of measure

3575
02:19:22,629 --> 02:19:21,359
the great pyramid seems to about seems

3576
02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:22,639
to be about

3577
02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:26,000
um more cosmic uh level units of measure

3578
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:28,399
and global units of nature we have

3579
02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:30,800
relationships between a lot of people

3580
02:19:33,509 --> 02:19:31,840
will tell you that the

3581
02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:33,519
the great pyramid is a squared

3582
02:19:38,389 --> 02:19:36,160
hemisphere and that its dimensions

3583
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:38,399
are a reflection of actual dimensions of

3584
02:19:42,709 --> 02:19:39,760
the earth

3585
02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:42,719
so we're at a larger scale of reference

3586
02:19:47,750 --> 02:19:44,880
of the great pyramid than we are with

3587
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:47,760
the smaller ones one of the pyramids i

3588
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:48,000
think

3589
02:19:53,349 --> 02:19:51,680
is primarily about um uh angles

3590
02:19:55,270 --> 02:19:53,359
about where things are placed about what

3591
02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:55,280
angles they're um at

3592
02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:57,200
we also have relationships you know the

3593
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:58,960
the sides of the great pyramid are not

3594
02:20:02,630 --> 02:19:59,439
flat

3595
02:20:03,590 --> 02:20:02,640
they're indented and so the measure that

3596
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:03,600
you get if you

3597
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:06,160
measure straight across the side is

3598
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:07,680
shorter than if you measure

3599
02:20:13,670 --> 02:20:11,280
the two angles uh you know to the center

3600
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,680
indent right right because it's

3601
02:20:16,710 --> 02:20:15,359
eight-sided i want everybody to

3602
02:20:19,830 --> 02:20:16,720
understand what laird is

3603
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:19,840
is saying here it's not four-sided the

3604
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:20,800
great pyramid

3605
02:20:24,710 --> 02:20:23,280
is eight-sided and you can only see it

3606
02:20:27,750 --> 02:20:24,720
for a few minutes on

3607
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:27,760
the say it laird i'm not the equinox

3608
02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:35,670
now ed's take on that is that

3609
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:38,399
okay if you imagine the musical scale

3610
02:20:42,389 --> 02:20:40,000
people who are musicians know

3611
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:42,399
that the frequencies of sound that make

3612
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:44,080
the musical notes

3613
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:46,960
um are are approximate if you did if you

3614
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:48,640
tried to lay them out mathematically to

3615
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:51,680
get the precise interval of the note

3616
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,520
it's not right you have to fudge it just

3617
02:20:57,429 --> 02:20:54,960
a little bit to get the

3618
02:20:58,950 --> 02:20:57,439
the proper note well the same sort of

3619
02:21:00,870 --> 02:20:58,960
fudge factor happens with the

3620
02:21:02,870 --> 02:21:00,880
units of measure he comes up with that

3621
02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:02,880
there's a a root number which is

3622
02:21:07,349 --> 02:21:05,439
the straight calculation and there's the

3623
02:21:07,990 --> 02:21:07,359
fudge number which is a factor off of

3624
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:08,000
that

3625
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:12,160
these two measures of the indented sides

3626
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:14,080
and the straight measure of the sides

3627
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:16,000
they're defining that relationship and

3628
02:21:19,670 --> 02:21:18,000
so you have a root speed of light

3629
02:21:21,590 --> 02:21:19,680
and then then you apply the measure and

3630
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:21,600
you get the actual speed of light

3631
02:21:29,990 --> 02:21:26,399
that kind of thing um it's so uh

3632
02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:30,000
what about the inside of mancard do you

3633
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:33,439
why why not scan it

3634
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:36,640
right well um the the geometric

3635
02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:37,840
relationships are all

3636
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:40,560
all to do with the the outer appearances

3637
02:21:44,309 --> 02:21:41,920
of these things which is not to say that

3638
02:21:46,870 --> 02:21:44,319
there's not important symbolism

3639
02:21:48,150 --> 02:21:46,880
involved with the insides of of these

3640
02:21:52,830 --> 02:21:48,160
structures

3641
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:52,840
but all of what looks like the

3642
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,439
um the units of measure type

3643
02:21:59,030 --> 02:21:57,760
um of information that's being reflected

3644
02:22:01,750 --> 02:21:59,040
at giza seems to be

3645
02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:01,760
presented outwardly not inwardly yeah

3646
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:02,960
but that's a lot of work

3647
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:05,359
isn't it that's a that's a lot of work

3648
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:06,319
just to

3649
02:22:09,910 --> 02:22:09,280
give this information as opposed to

3650
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:09,920
something that was

3651
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:11,920
the work was to preserve it to make sure

3652
02:22:15,349 --> 02:22:14,160
that that over a long period of time it

3653
02:22:16,950 --> 02:22:15,359
didn't get lost

3654
02:22:18,309 --> 02:22:16,960
the second thing according to the dogan

3655
02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:18,319
the second thing they were trying to do

3656
02:22:22,469 --> 02:22:19,200
was

3657
02:22:25,429 --> 02:22:22,479
the dogan's teachers felt that

3658
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:25,439
humanity had to be drawn to knowledge

3659
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:26,640
like

3660
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:30,080
a moth to a flame and so

3661
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:33,439
part of the rationale for building huge

3662
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:34,319
structures

3663
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:36,240
is because it has the effect of drawing

3664
02:22:38,870 --> 02:22:37,439
people to it you know you want to know

3665
02:22:41,349 --> 02:22:38,880
about this you want to be around it

3666
02:22:42,710 --> 02:22:41,359
you want to live near it you want to

3667
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:42,720
know why did they build it how do they

3668
02:22:47,750 --> 02:22:45,760
build it you know they're just

3669
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:47,760
questions that have persisted century

3670
02:22:50,710 --> 02:22:49,200
after century

3671
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:50,720
connected to these structures and that

3672
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:53,040
was the effect they were trying to get

3673
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:56,399
dude and i i know i'm pushing you on

3674
02:23:00,710 --> 02:22:56,880
this

3675
02:23:02,710 --> 02:23:00,720
but um i really have to know do you

3676
02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:02,720
do you think that there is nothing on

3677
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:05,680
the inside of mankara

3678
02:23:12,309 --> 02:23:10,080
you think it's a solid pile of stone

3679
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:12,319
it's hard to say it's uh i i don't have

3680
02:23:14,950 --> 02:23:14,080
enough of a fix on that pyramid to be

3681
02:23:19,349 --> 02:23:14,960
able to offer

3682
02:23:20,950 --> 02:23:19,359
an opinion about it um

3683
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:20,960
and i'm not even sure who to refer you

3684
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:23,040
to to besides ed

3685
02:23:26,630 --> 02:23:24,960
as uh an authority on it and i'm not

3686
02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:26,640
sure he has a fix on the inside of it i

3687
02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:27,920
know he does on the outside

3688
02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:30,399
yeah i know and and i'm i'm with you on

3689
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,040
that

3690
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:33,520
and i know what uh history has said

3691
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:34,240
about that

3692
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:36,720
and history's never been right but when

3693
02:23:41,110 --> 02:23:37,680
i look at it

3694
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:41,120
it's just as big it's just as majestic

3695
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:42,880
as the great pyramid it's only a few

3696
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:43,359
feet

3697
02:23:48,630 --> 02:23:46,960
shorter um it seems to me

3698
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:48,640
like there is a lot of stuff on the

3699
02:23:51,190 --> 02:23:50,080
inside if they're saying that there's

3700
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:51,200
nothing in there

3701
02:23:53,450 --> 02:23:52,720
then that means there's something in

3702
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:53,460
there

3703
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:56,319
[Laughter]

3704
02:23:59,590 --> 02:23:59,120
that's a good rule of thumb yeah did

3705
02:24:02,950 --> 02:23:59,600
what did

3706
02:24:09,590 --> 02:24:02,960
did

3707
02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:09,600
hear him speculate about

3708
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:12,720
why any one would think to um to build

3709
02:24:18,309 --> 02:24:15,760
structures with such big stone that's so

3710
02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:18,319
cumbersome to to use such large stones

3711
02:24:21,670 --> 02:24:19,200
to build things

3712
02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:21,680
i was on a um a panel discussion where

3713
02:24:24,950 --> 02:24:23,280
they were discussing that at one time

3714
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:24,960
a number of presenters were discussing

3715
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:26,800
it i think robert ball was of the

3716
02:24:31,910 --> 02:24:28,800
opinion that

3717
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:31,920
an engineer builds with the materials

3718
02:24:36,469 --> 02:24:33,520
that it's easiest for him to work with

3719
02:24:37,910 --> 02:24:36,479
if they were building with you know 110

3720
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:37,920
blocks of stone

3721
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:39,920
there's a rationale from which that was

3722
02:24:45,110 --> 02:24:42,479
the easiest thing to do

3723
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:45,120
john was of the opinion that it was done

3724
02:24:50,070 --> 02:24:46,560
for effect

3725
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:50,080
that um the effect of the same structure

3726
02:24:53,590 --> 02:24:51,280
built out of bricks

3727
02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:53,600
or built out of 70 ton stones is very

3728
02:24:58,150 --> 02:24:55,359
different on the person who

3729
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:58,160
is at the structure yeah that would make

3730
02:25:02,870 --> 02:24:59,439
sense

3731
02:25:05,349 --> 02:25:02,880
uh

3732
02:25:07,190 --> 02:25:05,359
take on why that might be um there are

3733
02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:07,200
relationships between the non-material

3734
02:25:10,309 --> 02:25:08,240
and the material

3735
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:10,319
that have to do with with changing time

3736
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:11,359
frames this is

3737
02:25:15,910 --> 02:25:13,760
gets down to yuga cycle stuff and the

3738
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:15,920
idea is that

3739
02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:18,240
time frames are lengthening on the

3740
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:20,000
material side and they're shortening

3741
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:23,439
on the non-material side and that

3742
02:25:27,510 --> 02:25:26,080
in early years when there were these

3743
02:25:28,309 --> 02:25:27,520
interactions might have been happening

3744
02:25:31,030 --> 02:25:28,319
between the two

3745
02:25:32,630 --> 02:25:31,040
universes that there was a minimum

3746
02:25:34,309 --> 02:25:32,640
segment of time that could be accessed

3747
02:25:36,630 --> 02:25:34,319
from the non-material side

3748
02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:36,640
and it says as if you had a tool that

3749
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:38,399
wasn't capable of cutting

3750
02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:42,880
a piece of stone smaller than 100 tons

3751
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:45,280
what's next for you laird before we get

3752
02:25:48,870 --> 02:25:46,560
out of here uh what

3753
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:48,880
what are you working on now i have a

3754
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:50,640
book coming out in may through inner

3755
02:25:54,389 --> 02:25:52,000
traditions called

3756
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:54,399
decoding maori cosmology it's about the

3757
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,840
maori in new zealand

3758
02:25:59,190 --> 02:25:57,600
and it connects to every other era i've

3759
02:26:03,030 --> 02:25:59,200
written about it connects to

3760
02:26:06,230 --> 02:26:03,040
africa egypt india china

3761
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:06,240
turkey northern scotland the united

3762
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:08,000
kingdom

3763
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:10,080
so that's out in may i have a

3764
02:26:12,710 --> 02:26:11,680
self-published book that was out in

3765
02:26:14,790 --> 02:26:12,720
october

3766
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:14,800
called seeking the primordial that deals

3767
02:26:19,670 --> 02:26:16,479
with uh fundamental

3768
02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:19,680
concepts of creation and how the dogan

3769
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:20,399
have

3770
02:26:26,870 --> 02:26:23,439
um symbolic stages that

3771
02:26:27,830 --> 02:26:26,880
that um that don't immediately align

3772
02:26:29,349 --> 02:26:27,840
with science you don't

3773
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:29,359
immediately see how they align with

3774
02:26:32,389 --> 02:26:30,720
science because the scientists aren't

3775
02:26:34,309 --> 02:26:32,399
talking about the same stages

3776
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:34,319
but when you examine them you realize

3777
02:26:37,670 --> 02:26:35,680
hey there is a

3778
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:37,680
scientific rationale where the dogan are

3779
02:26:41,590 --> 02:26:39,200
absolutely right about the

3780
02:26:42,550 --> 02:26:41,600
fundamental dynamics of how creation

3781
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:42,560
happens very

3782
02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:44,560
actually interesting and and in the end

3783
02:26:47,110 --> 02:26:46,160
simple stuff they're only a handful of

3784
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:47,120
dynamics

3785
02:26:52,389 --> 02:26:50,319
that make everything happen

3786
02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:52,399
i'm also working on a book a manuscript

3787
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:54,160
right now called the plan of the ancient

3788
02:26:57,830 --> 02:26:55,680
cosmology

3789
02:27:00,550 --> 02:26:57,840
and the purpose of this book is the

3790
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:00,560
concept for this book is

3791
02:27:05,830 --> 02:27:03,680
to spell out the thought process that

3792
02:27:07,510 --> 02:27:05,840
went into designing the symbolic system

3793
02:27:08,309 --> 02:27:07,520
and presenting it why certain choices

3794
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:08,319
were made

3795
02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:09,920
why symbols are presented the way they

3796
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:12,000
are what kinds of techniques they were

3797
02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:12,800
using to

3798
02:27:16,070 --> 02:27:14,800
communicate information and what kinds

3799
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,080
of considerations

3800
02:27:19,750 --> 02:27:18,319
they had to take into account be it to

3801
02:27:23,190 --> 02:27:19,760
be able to communicate

3802
02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:23,200
that knowledge i i remember a couple of

3803
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:23,920
years ago

3804
02:27:27,590 --> 02:27:26,880
you and i uh talked a little a little

3805
02:27:29,510 --> 02:27:27,600
bit about

3806
02:27:31,030 --> 02:27:29,520
the maori of new zealand and i'm going

3807
02:27:33,270 --> 02:27:31,040
to tell you right now i haven't gotten

3808
02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:33,280
that much email

3809
02:27:40,469 --> 02:27:36,720
on on a subject it it flooded in

3810
02:27:42,550 --> 02:27:40,479
and uh the listeners in new zealand

3811
02:27:44,790 --> 02:27:42,560
and australia that are familiar with

3812
02:27:46,389 --> 02:27:44,800
that were

3813
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:46,399
you're absolutely right here in new

3814
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:48,720
zealand they don't talk about it

3815
02:27:53,030 --> 02:27:51,200
no and the uh maori are hugely

3816
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:53,040
controversial in new zealand there's a

3817
02:27:57,270 --> 02:27:54,000
lot

3818
02:27:58,230 --> 02:27:57,280
at stake about certain uh theoretic

3819
02:28:01,429 --> 02:27:58,240
perspectives on

3820
02:28:02,870 --> 02:28:01,439
on the maori and so um

3821
02:28:04,389 --> 02:28:02,880
i'm touching on things in a different

3822
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,399
way i'm looking at it from an outside

3823
02:28:09,190 --> 02:28:06,960
perspective not an inside perspective

3824
02:28:11,030 --> 02:28:09,200
i'm in contact with some some people who

3825
02:28:13,910 --> 02:28:11,040
do have insider perspectives

3826
02:28:14,389 --> 02:28:13,920
on on maori studies uh that's

3827
02:28:17,590 --> 02:28:14,399
interesting

3828
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:17,600
connects in every way to

3829
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:20,160
the egyptian language that i've been

3830
02:28:23,270 --> 02:28:21,040
working with

3831
02:28:24,230 --> 02:28:23,280
it's formulated in the same way this is

3832
02:28:27,030 --> 02:28:24,240
based on

3833
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:27,040
the original phonetic tradition of the

3834
02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:29,040
oral cosmology where

3835
02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:32,399
words are are built from syllables that

3836
02:28:37,349 --> 02:28:33,600
are

3837
02:28:40,309 --> 02:28:37,359
associated with it and you can

3838
02:28:41,750 --> 02:28:40,319
build larger con constructs larger words

3839
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:41,760
larger concepts

3840
02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:44,800
from these building block uh syllables

3841
02:28:49,030 --> 02:28:46,240
and so sitting down with a maori

3842
02:28:51,030 --> 02:28:49,040
dictionary i can predict for you

3843
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:51,040
with pretty good consistency what a

3844
02:28:56,230 --> 02:28:53,520
maori word is going to mean

3845
02:28:59,110 --> 02:28:56,240
simply based on how it's pronounced how

3846
02:29:02,230 --> 02:28:59,120
many languages do you speak

3847
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:02,240
well bad english i think it was bruce

3848
02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:04,160
willis who said english and bad english

3849
02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:05,520
is that what this line was from the

3850
02:29:10,230 --> 02:29:08,000
fifth element um

3851
02:29:11,910 --> 02:29:10,240
i've been working with the duggan

3852
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:11,920
language the egyptian hieroglyphic

3853
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:12,800
language

3854
02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:14,560
uh the dog in dictionaries in french so

3855
02:29:16,630 --> 02:29:16,160
i've also had to be able to deal with

3856
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:16,640
that

3857
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:19,359
i studied german and spanish when i was

3858
02:29:23,429 --> 02:29:19,680
in

3859
02:29:25,190 --> 02:29:23,439
school and how about uh

3860
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:25,200
i'm already past the commercial break

3861
02:29:28,150 --> 02:29:27,680
here so i'm just throwing it all to the

3862
02:29:30,630 --> 02:29:28,160
wind

3863
02:29:32,309 --> 02:29:30,640
at this point how many languages can you

3864
02:29:35,429 --> 02:29:32,319
read

3865
02:29:37,750 --> 02:29:35,439
uh it's hard to say there are easily uh

3866
02:29:39,030 --> 02:29:37,760
a half dozen or more that i work with on

3867
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:39,040
a regular basis

3868
02:29:42,230 --> 02:29:40,960
and then others that connect to those

3869
02:29:45,429 --> 02:29:42,240
that i you know have

3870
02:29:47,270 --> 02:29:45,439
have an impression about but not a

3871
02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:47,280
deep knowledge about but so

3872
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:49,520
hieroglyphics you're in dendera

3873
02:29:53,030 --> 02:29:51,359
you can just walk through there and just

3874
02:29:56,469 --> 02:29:53,040
read it all

3875
02:29:58,950 --> 02:29:56,479
well yes and no um the

3876
02:30:01,030 --> 02:29:58,960
in the traditional viewpoint a glyph is

3877
02:30:01,750 --> 02:30:01,040
like a letter it represents a phonetic

3878
02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:01,760
value

3879
02:30:05,349 --> 02:30:03,280
but that doesn't really make sense

3880
02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:05,359
because we've got 40 phonetic values and

3881
02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:05,760
4

3882
02:30:09,190 --> 02:30:07,760
000 glyphs they don't need that many

3883
02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:09,200
glyphs to represent 40

3884
02:30:15,750 --> 02:30:12,720
genetics from my point of view

3885
02:30:17,910 --> 02:30:15,760
each glyph represents concept and so i

3886
02:30:18,950 --> 02:30:17,920
can walk up to a wall and see a series

3887
02:30:21,750 --> 02:30:18,960
of glyphs

3888
02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:21,760
and substitute concepts for the glyphs

3889
02:30:24,309 --> 02:30:22,080
and

3890
02:30:26,870 --> 02:30:24,319
tell give you a an impression of what

3891
02:30:28,950 --> 02:30:26,880
the word says based on the concepts

3892
02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:28,960
you're producing symbolic sentences the

3893
02:30:34,790 --> 02:30:30,560
egyptian word for weak

3894
02:30:37,270 --> 02:30:34,800
reads day 10 it's a 10 day week

3895
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:37,280
the the word tells you its own meaning

3896
02:30:41,429 --> 02:30:39,120
every egyptian word i work with works

3897
02:30:45,429 --> 02:30:41,439
that way

3898
02:30:47,270 --> 02:30:45,439
so yes i can read it in one way i can't

3899
02:30:49,990 --> 02:30:47,280
um

3900
02:30:51,750 --> 02:30:50,000
uh but it's a it's a glyph based reading

3901
02:30:54,710 --> 02:30:51,760
it's not a word based reading

3902
02:30:55,510 --> 02:30:54,720
and what about uh the cartouches if you

3903
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:55,520
know can you

3904
02:30:58,710 --> 02:30:58,160
uh do you know all of the cartouches

3905
02:31:01,830 --> 02:30:58,720
have

3906
02:31:04,389 --> 02:31:01,840
both phonetically and correctly um

3907
02:31:05,990 --> 02:31:04,399
i don't know them all from memory but

3908
02:31:08,389 --> 02:31:06,000
it's the same set of glyphs

3909
02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:08,399
right and so so you can interpret what

3910
02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:09,040
the what

3911
02:31:12,950 --> 02:31:10,880
concept was being expressed by those

3912
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:12,960
glyphs and i understand what the name of

3913
02:31:16,950 --> 02:31:13,359
the

3914
02:31:18,790 --> 02:31:16,960
could look at those glyphs and

3915
02:31:20,389 --> 02:31:18,800
and have some understanding about what

3916
02:31:21,429 --> 02:31:20,399
the meaning of his name was and why he

3917
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:21,439
might have picked it

3918
02:31:29,110 --> 02:31:25,439
uh there's a uh a pharaoh

3919
02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:29,120
at abdos um in very early times who

3920
02:31:35,590 --> 02:31:32,800
about to uh 2600 bc whose name was sene

3921
02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:35,600
pharaoh now sene is a word that means

3922
02:31:40,550 --> 02:31:37,439
image or reflection of

3923
02:31:41,990 --> 02:31:40,560
and pharaoh is the word pharaoh well it

3924
02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:42,000
turns out this is the guy who started

3925
02:31:45,349 --> 02:31:43,359
building pyramids

3926
02:31:46,870 --> 02:31:45,359
and the pyramids that he built take odd

3927
02:31:47,910 --> 02:31:46,880
shapes like the bent pyramid that

3928
02:31:50,230 --> 02:31:47,920
changes angles

3929
02:31:51,110 --> 02:31:50,240
halfway up and nobody knows why right

3930
02:31:53,590 --> 02:31:51,120
well

3931
02:31:55,590 --> 02:31:53,600
each of these oddly shaped pyramids has

3932
02:31:56,230 --> 02:31:55,600
a counterpart of the faroe islands is a

3933
02:31:58,469 --> 02:31:56,240
mountain

3934
02:32:00,230 --> 02:31:58,479
that's shaped very much like it it's

3935
02:32:03,429 --> 02:32:00,240
like this is a reflection his name

3936
02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:03,439
says he's uh his issue is reflect

3937
02:32:07,670 --> 02:32:05,920
reflections of the pharaoh

3938
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:07,680
and the structures he built are

3939
02:32:13,990 --> 02:32:10,880
reflections of the pharaoh islands

3940
02:32:14,550 --> 02:32:14,000
what are you serious yeah seriously i

3941
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:14,560
could

3942
02:32:18,070 --> 02:32:16,960
send you photographs i mean uh i have

3943
02:32:19,429 --> 02:32:18,080
there's a mountain there that looks just

3944
02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:19,439
like the bent pyramid

3945
02:32:24,550 --> 02:32:22,960
and wait a minute and you also said 2600

3946
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:24,560
bc

3947
02:32:30,190 --> 02:32:28,000
which is uh later than the traditional

3948
02:32:32,870 --> 02:32:30,200
dating of

3949
02:32:36,830 --> 02:32:32,880
26.50 for the great pyramid but the bent

3950
02:32:38,469 --> 02:32:36,840
pyramid was allegedly built 75 years

3951
02:32:41,110 --> 02:32:38,479
prior right

3952
02:32:42,550 --> 02:32:41,120
and and those those those datings are

3953
02:32:44,230 --> 02:32:42,560
are loosely goosey depending on the

3954
02:32:46,550 --> 02:32:44,240
frame of reference that the

3955
02:32:48,790 --> 02:32:46,560
the source is using and so like where

3956
02:32:50,710 --> 02:32:48,800
one source will say 1500 bc and other

3957
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:50,720
will say 1300 bc

3958
02:32:53,750 --> 02:32:53,200
there's there's some some wiggle room in

3959
02:32:57,750 --> 02:32:53,760
there

3960
02:32:59,190 --> 02:32:57,760
last question before i let you go and i

3961
02:33:00,150 --> 02:32:59,200
know it's late out there on the east

3962
02:33:04,070 --> 02:33:00,160
coast

3963
02:33:07,349 --> 02:33:04,080
i have often said that the dating of

3964
02:33:12,389 --> 02:33:07,359
any of this is

3965
02:33:15,750 --> 02:33:12,399
guesswork at best when we say 3000 bc

3966
02:33:18,790 --> 02:33:15,760
the egyptians didn't have a calendar

3967
02:33:21,429 --> 02:33:18,800
and their reference to years

3968
02:33:23,030 --> 02:33:21,439
was by name only right they didn't have

3969
02:33:26,150 --> 02:33:23,040
numbers for years

3970
02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:26,160
so we could be off by huge

3971
02:33:29,910 --> 02:33:28,800
chunks of time with all of this dating

3972
02:33:31,910 --> 02:33:29,920
couldn't we

3973
02:33:33,349 --> 02:33:31,920
well emmanuel velikovsky wrote a famous

3974
02:33:36,309 --> 02:33:33,359
book called ages and

3975
02:33:37,030 --> 02:33:36,319
chaos where he pointed out that if we

3976
02:33:39,510 --> 02:33:37,040
believe the

3977
02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:39,520
traditional egyptian timeline and try to

3978
02:33:42,469 --> 02:33:41,520
line it up with the traditional timeline

3979
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:42,479
given from

3980
02:33:48,309 --> 02:33:45,920
from the perspective of say israel

3981
02:33:49,030 --> 02:33:48,319
that there's a 700 year gap in there

3982
02:33:51,590 --> 02:33:49,040
where

3983
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:51,600
the same events repeat twice according

3984
02:33:55,510 --> 02:33:53,680
to one timeline there's an extra 700

3985
02:33:57,830 --> 02:33:55,520
years in the timeline someplace

3986
02:33:59,190 --> 02:33:57,840
that needs to be filtered out and he

3987
02:34:01,349 --> 02:33:59,200
wrote this long

3988
02:34:02,870 --> 02:34:01,359
book about it i'm not sure anybody's

3989
02:34:04,389 --> 02:34:02,880
actually done anything about revising

3990
02:34:06,630 --> 02:34:04,399
the timelines but there's

3991
02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:06,640
lots of room because you have

3992
02:34:10,070 --> 02:34:07,680
researchers

3993
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:10,080
um establishing their rulers their their

3994
02:34:12,710 --> 02:34:11,280
guidelines from

3995
02:34:14,710 --> 02:34:12,720
different points of view based on

3996
02:34:16,389 --> 02:34:14,720
different facts

3997
02:34:17,750 --> 02:34:16,399
and also based on different names you

3998
02:34:19,990 --> 02:34:17,760
know even even uh

3999
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:20,000
um a ruler is called might be called by

4000
02:34:24,230 --> 02:34:21,200
different names in different

4001
02:34:26,950 --> 02:34:24,240
um civilizations yeah

4002
02:34:29,110 --> 02:34:26,960
i don't i don't know of anywhere and

4003
02:34:32,630 --> 02:34:29,120
i've tried to find this out

4004
02:34:35,190 --> 02:34:32,640
laird i don't know who

4005
02:34:37,670 --> 02:34:35,200
has collected all and especially when we

4006
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:37,680
go back let's go back a hundred years

4007
02:34:42,790 --> 02:34:41,439
uh prior to when you were putting dates

4008
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:42,800
together and these

4009
02:34:48,790 --> 02:34:45,920
uh british archaeologists and and stuff

4010
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:48,800
in 1800s in the 1900s that were out

4011
02:34:52,790 --> 02:34:50,319
there dating this stuff

4012
02:34:54,710 --> 02:34:52,800
there's no collective reference point or

4013
02:34:56,469 --> 02:34:54,720
reference book where everybody has got

4014
02:34:57,429 --> 02:34:56,479
everything together and is dated and

4015
02:35:00,389 --> 02:34:57,439
accounted for

4016
02:35:02,070 --> 02:35:00,399
every day going back 3000 bc it doesn't

4017
02:35:04,469 --> 02:35:02,080
exist

4018
02:35:06,230 --> 02:35:04,479
there are official timelines but one of

4019
02:35:08,630 --> 02:35:06,240
the problems is

4020
02:35:10,070 --> 02:35:08,640
that the one of the traditional ways

4021
02:35:11,750 --> 02:35:10,080
they anchor

4022
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:11,760
events that they don't know for sure for

4023
02:35:17,270 --> 02:35:14,160
sure when they happened was in terms of

4024
02:35:18,550 --> 02:35:17,280
total eclipses of the sun right now the

4025
02:35:21,190 --> 02:35:18,560
problem is

4026
02:35:23,190 --> 02:35:21,200
that the mathematical calculations for

4027
02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:23,200
for total eclipses don't work

4028
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:27,200
across the boundary of uh 709 bc

4029
02:35:30,150 --> 02:35:28,240
there are other things that don't work

4030
02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:30,160
radiometric dating also doesn't work

4031
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:31,680
across that boundary there's something

4032
02:35:36,710 --> 02:35:32,640
big happened

4033
02:35:37,590 --> 02:35:36,720
at 709 bc that these processes don't

4034
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,600
hold true

4035
02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:39,600
across that boundary that's also the

4036
02:35:43,270 --> 02:35:41,520
same era when just after

4037
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:43,280
they changed all these cultures changed

4038
02:35:48,070 --> 02:35:45,280
over from a 360 day year

4039
02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:48,080
to 365. it looks like something really

4040
02:35:51,190 --> 02:35:49,520
really big happened then

4041
02:35:53,429 --> 02:35:51,200
there's huge fluctuations in the

4042
02:35:53,990 --> 02:35:53,439
magnetic field there's huge volcanic

4043
02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:54,000
activity

4044
02:36:00,070 --> 02:35:57,600
there's changes in climate there's um

4045
02:36:01,750 --> 02:36:00,080
you know changes in the ion absorption

4046
02:36:04,389 --> 02:36:01,760
absorption rate of plants

4047
02:36:05,670 --> 02:36:04,399
that things that shouldn't happen so

4048
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:05,680
something big happened there they're not

4049
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:07,040
accounting for so

4050
02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:08,319
the techniques they're using to

4051
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:10,399
calculate these dates there's not a

4052
02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:10,960
single

4053
02:36:15,110 --> 02:36:13,600
total eclipse of the sun reported before

4054
02:36:16,469 --> 02:36:15,120
709 bc

4055
02:36:18,630 --> 02:36:16,479
that they've actually been able to

4056
02:36:21,349 --> 02:36:18,640
confirm using the traditional

4057
02:36:23,270 --> 02:36:21,359
calculations it should be clockwork it

4058
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:23,280
should be clockwork and when i've talked

4059
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:24,720
to different researchers

4060
02:36:28,950 --> 02:36:26,399
uh over the years and when i bring up

4061
02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:28,960
this point they go oh no we've got

4062
02:36:33,030 --> 02:36:30,000
celestial

4063
02:36:34,790 --> 02:36:33,040
events that line everything up and i'm

4064
02:36:37,190 --> 02:36:34,800
like well show it to me

4065
02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:37,200
and there isn't anything out there that

4066
02:36:40,790 --> 02:36:38,720
that documents this

4067
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:40,800
and that's the thing i don't know if

4068
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:42,720
we're talking about 3000 bc

4069
02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:44,960
if we're talking in literal terms now

4070
02:36:51,429 --> 02:36:48,399
we're not talking about 6000 bc

4071
02:36:53,750 --> 02:36:51,439
right i mean there could easily be

4072
02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:53,760
centuries in there for fluctuation back

4073
02:36:57,510 --> 02:36:55,600
and forth in terms of when an event

4074
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:57,520
happened nobody's absolutely sure this

4075
02:37:03,510 --> 02:36:59,520
is why i'm suspicious

4076
02:37:07,429 --> 02:37:03,520
of alignment you know when somebody says

4077
02:37:10,070 --> 02:37:07,439
yes the the star computer programs

4078
02:37:12,469 --> 02:37:10,080
these astronomical programs confirm an

4079
02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:12,479
alignment of a consolation at a

4080
02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:14,720
particular year in a particular place

4081
02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:16,640
if they can't confirm where the total

4082
02:37:19,750 --> 02:37:18,479
eclipses happen they don't know anything

4083
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:19,760
they don't know what our relationship

4084
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:20,080
was

4085
02:37:23,830 --> 02:37:22,319
the stars those alignments are guesswork

4086
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:23,840
they're not

4087
02:37:28,630 --> 02:37:26,880
firm that's exactly right that's why you

4088
02:37:31,429 --> 02:37:28,640
are on this show

4089
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:31,439
thank you so much laird and i can't wait

4090
02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:33,200
to get you back on and as soon as you

4091
02:37:36,550 --> 02:37:34,000
finish the book

4092
02:37:37,910 --> 02:37:36,560
let us know and i can't wait to read it

4093
02:37:39,590 --> 02:37:37,920
well great thank you very much

4094
02:37:41,429 --> 02:37:39,600
jimmy is it always a pleasure talking to

4095
02:37:43,110 --> 02:37:41,439
you you're the best laird and i mean it

4096
02:37:46,230 --> 02:37:43,120
thank you so much

4097
02:37:48,550 --> 02:37:46,240
bye-bye bye-bye laird scranton everybody

4098
02:37:50,389 --> 02:37:48,560
that's what i am talking about right

4099
02:37:52,950 --> 02:37:50,399
there big stuff

4100
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:52,960
going on all around the world in egypt

4101
02:37:57,349 --> 02:37:54,800
right now with nefertiti

4102
02:37:58,309 --> 02:37:57,359
uh the the this new chamber above the

4103
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4104
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4198
02:42:13,960 --> 02:42:26,309
[Music]

4199
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:27,990
welcome back fade to black i want to

4200
02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:34,230
fascinating times i'm telling you

4201
02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:37,760
everything is just crashing down on us

4202
02:42:45,190 --> 02:42:42,080
facebook facebook falling apart

4203
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:45,200
we've got uh giza going on

4204
02:42:50,389 --> 02:42:47,760
the nazca mummies revelations are just

4205
02:42:52,790 --> 02:42:50,399
extraordinary that's happening right now

4206
02:42:54,870 --> 02:42:52,800
uh all of that tied back to egypt too as

4207
02:42:57,590 --> 02:42:54,880
well it's just absolutely

4208
02:42:59,990 --> 02:42:57,600
nutty to me but thank you lord scranton

4209
02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:00,000
just always a fascinating conversation

4210
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:03,200
and uh and i just noticed mark tarana's

4211
02:43:06,870 --> 02:43:06,000
uh meme that he just put up uh to quote

4212
02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:06,880
jimmy church

4213
02:43:12,870 --> 02:43:11,359
we know nothing yeah

4214
02:43:14,630 --> 02:43:12,880
i'm going to make a t-shirt i'm going to

4215
02:43:17,429 --> 02:43:14,640
do that i'm going to do a we know

4216
02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:17,439
nothing t-shirt that'll be on the back

4217
02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:19,359
go beckley teppy on the front

4218
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:21,200
let's go to the phones hi you're live

4219
02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:23,600
i'm fade to black who's calling

4220
02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:28,240
hello jamie it's miriella hi how are you

4221
02:43:32,710 --> 02:43:30,880
i'm really good thank you and what time

4222
02:43:35,590 --> 02:43:32,720
is it over there

4223
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:35,600
um it's about knowing the time for the

4224
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:36,640
bold and the beautiful

4225
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:37,450
4 30.

4226
02:43:43,510 --> 02:43:41,680
[Laughter]

4227
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:43,520
okay that you know what i'm i'm just

4228
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:44,800
going to let that go

4229
02:43:47,910 --> 02:43:46,319
all right i'm just going to let that

4230
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:47,920
side mother's everyone

4231
02:43:51,990 --> 02:43:49,760
like all the nemesis i i didn't know

4232
02:43:54,070 --> 02:43:52,000
that was still on but uh

4233
02:43:55,750 --> 02:43:54,080
is there anything is there an australian

4234
02:43:59,750 --> 02:43:55,760
version of it or is that the uh

4235
02:44:03,110 --> 02:43:59,760
american version oh it's right on cue

4236
02:44:05,030 --> 02:44:03,120
and my sister went over and my daughter

4237
02:44:11,349 --> 02:44:05,040
works for the production

4238
02:44:15,630 --> 02:44:14,150
i know she got um like a little pathway

4239
02:44:18,630 --> 02:44:15,640
to take my sister

4240
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:18,640
backstage and they did filming and they

4241
02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:20,160
met everyone

4242
02:44:23,910 --> 02:44:23,279
all the cars so it was so exciting

4243
02:44:26,630 --> 02:44:23,920
because

4244
02:44:27,990 --> 02:44:26,640
my my grandma has watched it fixed

4245
02:44:31,030 --> 02:44:28,000
friday night whoever

4246
02:44:32,389 --> 02:44:31,040
right my mum and everyone met from but

4247
02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:32,399
that's the last thing

4248
02:44:37,110 --> 02:44:35,680
my daughter's in l.a so what's up

4249
02:44:39,750 --> 02:44:37,120
so what's on your mind tonight what'd

4250
02:44:43,030 --> 02:44:39,760
you think about the show

4251
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:43,040
i loved i i love every show but i've

4252
02:44:46,950 --> 02:44:43,439
just

4253
02:44:49,190 --> 02:44:46,960
organized all my computer and

4254
02:44:50,389 --> 02:44:49,200
ipad and i'm calling you on my phone but

4255
02:44:52,710 --> 02:44:50,399
i'm looking at you

4256
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:52,720
on the bunker camp so that's exciting

4257
02:44:55,349 --> 02:44:53,520
for me

4258
02:44:57,110 --> 02:44:55,359
i'm waving at you right now on the

4259
02:45:00,150 --> 02:44:57,120
bunker cam so

4260
02:45:02,550 --> 02:45:00,160
hello um

4261
02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:02,560
i love that i'm stellar thing i'm so

4262
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:03,520
happy to

4263
02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:07,439
kind of let everything go um because

4264
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:11,040
i need a place where i have other people

4265
02:45:15,910 --> 02:45:13,600
talking about the same thing so facebook

4266
02:45:18,230 --> 02:45:15,920
doesn't do that for me anymore

4267
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:18,240
i was happy to leave my space when it

4268
02:45:21,990 --> 02:45:19,359
all happened

4269
02:45:24,150 --> 02:45:22,000
years ago and then i went to facebook

4270
02:45:27,590 --> 02:45:24,160
it's just to keep in contact with my

4271
02:45:29,990 --> 02:45:27,600
my children in l.a basically

4272
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:30,000
that that's it and so to have on stella

4273
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:31,279
like i'm already

4274
02:45:36,790 --> 02:45:34,640
i'm i've got my name i've got everything

4275
02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:36,800
and i so i want to do the token thing

4276
02:45:41,349 --> 02:45:39,200
like i want to get coffee i want to get

4277
02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:41,359
you know night vision glasses but if i

4278
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:42,960
can work for those

4279
02:45:49,190 --> 02:45:46,080
i want you um

4280
02:45:51,750 --> 02:45:49,200
the thing about an agent was that um

4281
02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:51,760
with all my computer stuff now all garn

4282
02:45:56,630 --> 02:45:53,920
took me away

4283
02:45:58,469 --> 02:45:56,640
with the you know service in telstra in

4284
02:46:02,389 --> 02:45:58,479
australia but that's all good now

4285
02:46:04,150 --> 02:46:02,399
and um i revisited a lot of um

4286
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:04,160
old documentaries you know that i

4287
02:46:09,190 --> 02:46:06,160
remember watching and

4288
02:46:12,630 --> 02:46:09,200
so the there's a place in

4289
02:46:16,230 --> 02:46:12,640
egypt called abyssia

4290
02:46:19,590 --> 02:46:16,240
and there was a reference

4291
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:19,600
about abyssia being the monuments there

4292
02:46:23,990 --> 02:46:21,120
which are pyramids

4293
02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:24,000
but they're very very old maybe dating

4294
02:46:29,990 --> 02:46:27,120
back before the sphinx

4295
02:46:30,710 --> 02:46:30,000
so they're alone supposedly with the

4296
02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:30,720
permeating

4297
02:46:36,950 --> 02:46:33,920
star system which sits behind

4298
02:46:40,469 --> 02:46:36,960
orion and sits behind sirius

4299
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:40,479
the start so in ancient times

4300
02:46:45,510 --> 02:46:43,520
that was the star series who they voiced

4301
02:46:46,790 --> 02:46:45,520
and did all the drawings to and

4302
02:46:50,070 --> 02:46:46,800
everything

4303
02:46:53,510 --> 02:46:50,080
the star actually disappears from

4304
02:46:55,349 --> 02:46:53,520
their sky for 70 days i don't know

4305
02:46:56,870 --> 02:46:55,359
i don't know this and i wondered if

4306
02:47:00,710 --> 02:46:56,880
someone knew on this

4307
02:47:04,309 --> 02:47:03,030
are you still there yeah yeah go ahead i

4308
02:47:07,429 --> 02:47:04,319
brought in a call but

4309
02:47:09,269 --> 02:47:07,439
uh it uh it broke up so yeah go ahead

4310
02:47:12,309 --> 02:47:09,279
and continue

4311
02:47:14,630 --> 02:47:12,319
okay so we have um

4312
02:47:16,550 --> 02:47:14,640
the palladians come in and out about

4313
02:47:20,150 --> 02:47:16,560
some skies here

4314
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:20,160
and there and in aboriginal dream time

4315
02:47:22,950 --> 02:47:20,720
stories

4316
02:47:24,469 --> 02:47:22,960
there are seven sisters uh related to

4317
02:47:28,630 --> 02:47:24,479
the colliding stuff

4318
02:47:31,830 --> 02:47:28,640
yeah can you speak up yes

4319
02:47:35,349 --> 02:47:31,840
the palladian star system in our

4320
02:47:37,910 --> 02:47:35,359
sky southern skies and

4321
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:37,920
i was wondering does anyone knowing

4322
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:39,040
whether

4323
02:47:45,110 --> 02:47:42,720
these pyramids in abyssia and

4324
02:47:47,429 --> 02:47:45,120
their alignment with the palladians is

4325
02:47:49,269 --> 02:47:47,439
actually a story is actually in their

4326
02:47:52,630 --> 02:47:49,279
folklore

4327
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:52,640
come down through word of mouth

4328
02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:55,120
and it's interesting for me because we

4329
02:48:00,550 --> 02:47:57,359
come under the palladian

4330
02:48:02,870 --> 02:48:00,560
um energy as well and

4331
02:48:03,590 --> 02:48:02,880
in the aboriginal dream time seven

4332
02:48:06,790 --> 02:48:03,600
sisters

4333
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:06,800
are always referred to we have a seven

4334
02:48:10,710 --> 02:48:07,840
sisters

4335
02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:10,720
conference in the desert and their dream

4336
02:48:16,309 --> 02:48:11,680
time stories

4337
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:16,319
told these pyramids in other six

4338
02:48:22,070 --> 02:48:19,520
the seventh so there there's that

4339
02:48:23,349 --> 02:48:22,080
i had a little operation during the week

4340
02:48:26,309 --> 02:48:23,359
but my surgeon

4341
02:48:27,429 --> 02:48:26,319
i didn't know he was from abyssia a

4342
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:27,439
coptic

4343
02:48:32,710 --> 02:48:30,080
egyptian we got talking while he was

4344
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:32,720
doing my surgery i was in this place

4345
02:48:39,110 --> 02:48:35,920
it was so synchronistic of

4346
02:48:43,429 --> 02:48:39,120
what i've just been reading today on

4347
02:48:45,590 --> 02:48:43,439
listening like i'm thinking there's just

4348
02:48:48,309 --> 02:48:45,600
too much in this we are under their

4349
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:48,319
influence as well just by being

4350
02:48:56,070 --> 02:48:51,840
a part of that whole map

4351
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:56,080
that star map and the archaeological map

4352
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:59,359
as well well i can i can help you out

4353
02:49:03,510 --> 02:49:00,479
with this marilla

4354
02:49:05,750 --> 02:49:03,520
if you if you go and and look up

4355
02:49:07,590 --> 02:49:05,760
ed nightingale i don't have his links

4356
02:49:08,309 --> 02:49:07,600
right now but somebody will post it up

4357
02:49:11,349 --> 02:49:08,319
in twitter

4358
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:11,359
and and we'll get it there but he

4359
02:49:17,990 --> 02:49:14,800
has laid out everything

4360
02:49:21,510 --> 02:49:18,000
from uh giza

4361
02:49:24,950 --> 02:49:21,520
all the way down uh with uh some very

4362
02:49:28,469 --> 02:49:24,960
accurate uh satellite military imaging

4363
02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:28,479
and he has laid out all of now

4364
02:49:31,910 --> 02:49:31,120
of course beval and orion and we know

4365
02:49:35,110 --> 02:49:31,920
about that

4366
02:49:36,950 --> 02:49:35,120
and andrew collins and and and the work

4367
02:49:39,910 --> 02:49:36,960
that they have done with the alignments

4368
02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:39,920
but nightingale has connected everything

4369
02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:40,240
so

4370
02:49:46,790 --> 02:49:44,560
should go and look at his research and

4371
02:49:49,670 --> 02:49:46,800
see if he's tied in the pilates

4372
02:49:50,389 --> 02:49:49,680
and if it is if it is those seven

4373
02:49:52,070 --> 02:49:50,399
pyramids

4374
02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:52,080
tied in with the seven sisters but you

4375
02:49:57,269 --> 02:49:54,640
should go look at his work and also

4376
02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:57,279
send him an email uh he's easy to get a

4377
02:50:01,830 --> 02:49:58,960
hold of

4378
02:50:02,469 --> 02:50:01,840
beautiful thank you so much barella have

4379
02:50:05,590 --> 02:50:02,479
a great

4380
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:05,600
tomorrow night

4381
02:50:10,230 --> 02:50:08,640
beautiful thank you thank you all right

4382
02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:10,240
yeah that's that's a really

4383
02:50:14,469 --> 02:50:13,120
interesting point um let's go back to

4384
02:50:16,550 --> 02:50:14,479
the phones hi you're live on fade to

4385
02:50:20,630 --> 02:50:16,560
black who's calling

4386
02:50:24,469 --> 02:50:20,640
hi this is dean this is who

4387
02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:24,479
this is janine jimmy oh hi janine

4388
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:27,439
how are you yeah not not the other

4389
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,520
janine whose questions you were reading

4390
02:50:31,510 --> 02:50:31,279
it's good to know there's another one of

4391
02:50:34,469 --> 02:50:31,520
us

4392
02:50:35,990 --> 02:50:34,479
on stage to black yeah absolutely so you

4393
02:50:38,550 --> 02:50:36,000
know you're not alone out there

4394
02:50:40,950 --> 02:50:38,560
that's what's really cool what time i i

4395
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:40,960
know i'm not alone hey i had a really

4396
02:50:46,150 --> 02:50:42,399
weird experience

4397
02:50:48,550 --> 02:50:46,160
tonight that i'm i'm hoping that

4398
02:50:50,469 --> 02:50:48,560
maybe you or some of the fader knots can

4399
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:50,479
shed some light on

4400
02:50:57,110 --> 02:50:54,240
um i i noticed when i was in

4401
02:50:59,030 --> 02:50:57,120
i was doing some shopping in target and

4402
02:51:02,150 --> 02:50:59,040
i noticed how

4403
02:51:04,950 --> 02:51:02,160
you know um

4404
02:51:07,030 --> 02:51:04,960
all the customers were they they would

4405
02:51:09,269 --> 02:51:07,040
help other customers and everybody was

4406
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:09,279
just being so nice

4407
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:12,240
and and then i was walking down the

4408
02:51:16,230 --> 02:51:13,200
aisle

4409
02:51:18,710 --> 02:51:16,240
and all of a sudden it was like my

4410
02:51:22,550 --> 02:51:18,720
reality made a slight shift

4411
02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:22,560
i was still in target but

4412
02:51:28,790 --> 02:51:25,680
it was like um

4413
02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:28,800
kind of like something

4414
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:33,520
or something

4415
02:51:39,429 --> 02:51:36,800
uh i like i was in

4416
02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:39,439
some kind of different reality but i was

4417
02:51:44,870 --> 02:51:42,240
still in the same place

4418
02:51:46,469 --> 02:51:44,880
it was weird i don't know how else to

4419
02:51:48,150 --> 02:51:46,479
describe it just

4420
02:51:50,790 --> 02:51:48,160
well what do you think happened what do

4421
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:50,800
you think happened janine

4422
02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:54,080
i i think the only thing i think

4423
02:52:03,110 --> 02:52:00,550
it was kind of like i made a shift into

4424
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:03,120
4d for a few moments

4425
02:52:09,349 --> 02:52:06,160
because i was noticing

4426
02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:09,359
that everybody was being so courteous to

4427
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:11,359
everybody

4428
02:52:17,190 --> 02:52:15,439
you know and um you know i would ask

4429
02:52:20,630 --> 02:52:17,200
somebody for help

4430
02:52:22,469 --> 02:52:20,640
and um and then

4431
02:52:24,150 --> 02:52:22,479
when they would help me i would send a

4432
02:52:27,190 --> 02:52:24,160
blessing to them

4433
02:52:29,750 --> 02:52:27,200
i was kind of having fun pretending that

4434
02:52:31,830 --> 02:52:29,760
i was an angel i would send an angel off

4435
02:52:34,870 --> 02:52:31,840
to send them a blessing

4436
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:34,880
and um like i would ask somebody for

4437
02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:35,680
help

4438
02:52:40,870 --> 02:52:37,840
and thinking that they were an employee

4439
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:40,880
and oh no they weren't an employee

4440
02:52:45,590 --> 02:52:42,640
but they they pointed me in the right

4441
02:52:49,510 --> 02:52:45,600
direction anyway

4442
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:53,110
it just wasn't your typical 3d you know

4443
02:52:57,429 --> 02:52:56,080
people being grumpy to one another yeah

4444
02:52:59,510 --> 02:52:57,439
you were definitely in an

4445
02:53:02,309 --> 02:52:59,520
alternate reality if you were getting

4446
02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:02,319
help at target

4447
02:53:09,030 --> 02:53:05,520
from other customers yeah that

4448
02:53:10,790 --> 02:53:09,040
that uh that's like a bizarro world in

4449
02:53:14,870 --> 02:53:10,800
superman

4450
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:14,880
yeah yeah it just it it really

4451
02:53:19,590 --> 02:53:17,920
you know it's like my reality shifted it

4452
02:53:22,070 --> 02:53:19,600
was a

4453
02:53:23,590 --> 02:53:22,080
i wish i knew how to describe it

4454
02:53:27,110 --> 02:53:23,600
wouldn't it be nice if

4455
02:53:29,190 --> 02:53:27,120
every day was like that oh gosh

4456
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:29,200
wouldn't this world be so much nicer to

4457
02:53:34,150 --> 02:53:30,720
live in i know but

4458
02:53:37,590 --> 02:53:34,160
if if you've seen any of my emails

4459
02:53:41,030 --> 02:53:37,600
referring you to uh things

4460
02:53:42,910 --> 02:53:41,040
that alison coe has been hearing from

4461
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:42,920
her

4462
02:53:48,070 --> 02:53:45,200
qhht clients

4463
02:53:48,950 --> 02:53:48,080
that's dolores cannon's quantum healing

4464
02:53:52,309 --> 02:53:48,960
hypnosis

4465
02:53:54,550 --> 02:53:52,319
technique and she's been hearing from

4466
02:53:56,469 --> 02:53:54,560
a lot of clients and those who give her

4467
02:53:59,590 --> 02:53:56,479
permission to share

4468
02:54:03,670 --> 02:53:59,600
she does about this

4469
02:54:08,150 --> 02:54:03,680
massive energetic wave that's coming

4470
02:54:10,870 --> 02:54:08,160
that is going to uh

4471
02:54:12,469 --> 02:54:10,880
what you'll see everybody will see a

4472
02:54:15,990 --> 02:54:12,479
little something different but

4473
02:54:17,670 --> 02:54:16,000
in general what most are reporting

4474
02:54:20,230 --> 02:54:17,680
and what she does is they talk to the

4475
02:54:23,590 --> 02:54:20,240
higher self of the client

4476
02:54:26,630 --> 02:54:23,600
and what what they are saying is that

4477
02:54:29,670 --> 02:54:26,640
most people are going to see kind of

4478
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:29,680
like these iridescent colors in the sky

4479
02:54:34,230 --> 02:54:32,000
and they're saying everyone no matter

4480
02:54:38,469 --> 02:54:34,240
where they are we'll see this

4481
02:54:41,830 --> 02:54:38,479
and it the the truly evil will be

4482
02:54:44,550 --> 02:54:41,840
swept away and

4483
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:44,560
most people with a high enough vibration

4484
02:54:48,309 --> 02:54:45,439
will feel

4485
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:48,319
a buzzing or vibrating in their bodies

4486
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:50,080
right before it happens

4487
02:54:57,830 --> 02:54:53,920
and this could be any day now jimmy

4488
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:57,840
you gotta get alison cole on the show

4489
02:55:01,190 --> 02:55:00,560
c-o-e you gotta look her up oh we know

4490
02:55:05,830 --> 02:55:01,200
allison

4491
02:55:09,110 --> 02:55:05,840
co oh good good i'm glad you know her

4492
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:09,120
everybody knows allison co

4493
02:55:15,830 --> 02:55:12,160
oh okay good i i hope you guys like her

4494
02:55:17,830 --> 02:55:15,840
hey hey janine janine i've got a roll

4495
02:55:19,190 --> 02:55:17,840
i've got to get credits going and wrap

4496
02:55:22,070 --> 02:55:19,200
up the show but are you going to be at

4497
02:55:24,870 --> 02:55:22,080
contact in the desert

4498
02:55:26,389 --> 02:55:24,880
i don't think so but who knows things

4499
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:26,399
might change

4500
02:55:31,190 --> 02:55:29,520
i i went to i went to england 50 years

4501
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:31,200
ago this year

4502
02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:33,760
and as a child and i had my eighth

4503
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:36,000
birthday over there and i still want to

4504
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:38,399
take my sister and i

4505
02:55:42,070 --> 02:55:41,520
and go over to england and be there for

4506
02:55:47,750 --> 02:55:42,080
my

4507
02:55:48,550 --> 02:55:47,760
really want to do that but that would be

4508
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:48,560
in the middle of

4509
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:51,680
june so it would be yeah you can't do

4510
02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:54,560
yeah you can't do that i am i am signed

4511
02:55:58,550 --> 02:55:56,720
up for soul tech

4512
02:55:59,990 --> 02:55:58,560
oh you're going to soul tech i can't

4513
02:56:02,389 --> 02:56:00,000
wait and you're going to bring your fade

4514
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:02,399
to black shirt don't forget

4515
02:56:06,150 --> 02:56:05,840
of course of course janine thank you so

4516
02:56:08,950 --> 02:56:06,160
much

4517
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:08,960
you know what i've i've only gotten one

4518
02:56:11,670 --> 02:56:10,800
and i don't know if that was for the new

4519
02:56:15,429 --> 02:56:11,680
mana

4520
02:56:18,389 --> 02:56:15,439
or if that was for the game changer oh

4521
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:18,399
well i haven't gotten a hat yet either

4522
02:56:23,349 --> 02:56:20,240
oh well there you go well

4523
02:56:25,830 --> 02:56:23,359
check your mailbox okay

4524
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:25,840
thank you so much jimmy thanks great

4525
02:56:29,110 --> 02:56:27,439
show jimmy great show

4526
02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:29,120
thank you janine and we'll see you

4527
02:56:34,070 --> 02:56:30,880
tomorrow night

4528
02:56:37,990 --> 02:56:34,080
okay be here okay bye-bye bye-bye

4529
02:56:39,830 --> 02:56:38,000
janine she's so cool um yeah tomorrow

4530
02:56:43,910 --> 02:56:39,840
nights

4531
02:56:44,469 --> 02:56:43,920
smith is gonna be here wow what a week

4532
02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:44,479
on the show

4533
02:56:49,510 --> 02:56:47,520
fantastic show tonight and uh i've got

4534
02:56:50,550 --> 02:56:49,520
to tell you there is uh some stuff going

4535
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:50,560
on right now

4536
02:56:57,830 --> 02:56:54,800
in giza that uh it has to resolve itself

4537
02:57:00,150 --> 02:56:57,840
and i know the massive museum

4538
02:57:02,389 --> 02:57:00,160
of the new cabrio museum out there we

4539
02:57:03,590 --> 02:57:02,399
rita and i just watched a documentary on

4540
02:57:05,429 --> 02:57:03,600
on the building of that

4541
02:57:07,110 --> 02:57:05,439
and it's tremendous it's huge it's

4542
02:57:11,110 --> 02:57:07,120
gorgeous beautiful

4543
02:57:14,790 --> 02:57:11,120
and i wouldn't doubt that they

4544
02:57:17,910 --> 02:57:14,800
are holding stuff back that would

4545
02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:17,920
be used for the grand opening for

4546
02:57:21,910 --> 02:57:19,120
tourism

4547
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:21,920
um i just and i've talked to so many

4548
02:57:25,030 --> 02:57:23,439
people that tourism is great everything

4549
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:25,040
is cool everything is safe i'm telling

4550
02:57:27,750 --> 02:57:25,760
you right now

4551
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:27,760
rita and i just watched a documentary on

4552
02:57:31,990 --> 02:57:28,960
tourism

4553
02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:32,000
in uh egypt and it's empty

4554
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:35,200
it's empty it is

4555
02:57:38,550 --> 02:57:36,640
nothing like what it used to be and

4556
02:57:41,349 --> 02:57:38,560
they've got this museum

4557
02:57:42,710 --> 02:57:41,359
that is uh getting ready to uh uh you

4558
02:57:44,469 --> 02:57:42,720
know get finished and they're gonna have

4559
02:57:45,990 --> 02:57:44,479
the grand opening and there may not be

4560
02:57:48,389 --> 02:57:46,000
that many people

4561
02:57:50,230 --> 02:57:48,399
uh flying out there to go and check it

4562
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:50,240
out and so think about that

4563
02:57:53,510 --> 02:57:52,560
holding something back like nefertiti's

4564
02:57:56,469 --> 02:57:53,520
tomb

4565
02:57:58,790 --> 02:57:56,479
uh the what was found in in this new

4566
02:58:01,910 --> 02:57:58,800
chamber above the grand gallery

4567
02:58:03,990 --> 02:58:01,920
uh and other things too as well

4568
02:58:06,389 --> 02:58:04,000
that they could be holding back just for

4569
02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:06,399
this so there you go and we'll get a

4570
02:58:11,030 --> 02:58:08,560
william henry out here as soon as we can

4571
02:58:13,429 --> 02:58:11,040
to find out exactly what's going on and

4572
02:58:16,630 --> 02:58:13,439
that wraps another episode of faded

4573
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:16,640
black thank you to laird scranton

4574
02:58:20,389 --> 02:58:19,200
thank you to janine marella out there in

4575
02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:20,399
australia thank you

4576
02:58:28,870 --> 02:58:26,790
peter black's executive producers rita

4577
02:58:31,110 --> 02:58:28,880
kamarian shows produced by hill j palm

4578
02:58:34,230 --> 02:58:31,120
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4579
02:58:35,349 --> 02:58:34,240
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4580
02:58:38,349 --> 02:58:35,359
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4581
02:58:39,750 --> 02:58:38,359
music doug aldrich intro spaceboy

4582
02:58:41,910 --> 02:58:39,760
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4583
02:58:43,670 --> 02:58:41,920
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4584
02:58:45,190 --> 02:58:43,680
game changer network and syndication is

4585
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:45,200
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4586
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:47,120
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4587
02:58:50,469 --> 02:58:49,279
copyrighted 2018 by fade to black and

4588
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:50,479
the game changer network

4589
02:58:54,070 --> 02:58:52,479
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4590
02:58:54,790 --> 02:58:54,080
copied or used anywhere in the known

4591
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,800
universe

4592
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:56,479
without written permission from fade to

4593
02:59:00,070 --> 02:58:58,240
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4594
02:59:01,510 --> 02:59:00,080
our mail's jimmy church follow me on

4595
02:59:05,510 --> 02:59:01,520
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4596
02:59:08,630 --> 02:59:05,520
church radio tomorrow night right here

4597
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:08,640
yvonne smith until then

4598
02:59:33,980 --> 02:59:14,410
everybody be safe go backly tapping